Waking Mathilda, Child with Narcolepsy from Drugs (infants, parent, appropriate)
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Talking about vaccines on H&W, this came into my mail today and wanted to share it somewhere here...and I hope this is appropriate. I not a great fan of vaccines of any kind, there are some necessary ones and I've had a few when I was a child many moons ago.
Pandemrix was not licensed for use in the US. It was not used before or after the 2009 H1N1 pandemic.
"In response to the events in Europe, CDC reviewed data from the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and the Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD) and found no indication of any association between U.S.-licensed H1N1 or seasonal influenza vaccine and narcolepsy."
How the vaccine could have caused narcolepsy. Note that swine flu infection has been associated with narcolepsy, too.
"Because Pandemrix was associated with an increased risk of narcolepsy, it was withdrawn from the market. But Steinman is quick to point out that, even with that risk, the vaccine was far safer than being infected with swine flu. In the United States alone, the 2009 swine flu pandemic resulted in 274,304 hospitalizations and 12,469 deaths."
There is no reason to refuse flu vaccine for your child based on concerns about narcolepsy.
Pandemrix was not licensed for use in the US. It was not used before or after the 2009 H1N1 pandemic.
"In response to the events in Europe, CDC reviewed data from the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and the Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD) and found no indication of any association between U.S.-licensed H1N1 or seasonal influenza vaccine and narcolepsy."
How the vaccine could have caused narcolepsy. Note that swine flu infection has been associated with narcolepsy, too.
"Because Pandemrix was associated with an increased risk of narcolepsy, it was withdrawn from the market. But Steinman is quick to point out that, even with that risk, the vaccine was far safer than being infected with swine flu. In the United States alone, the 2009 swine flu pandemic resulted in 274,304 hospitalizations and 12,469 deaths."
There is no reason to refuse flu vaccine for your child based on concerns about narcolepsy.
Oh you found me here so you can attack my info...what else is knew? I keep thinking of the word troll. Everyone here is adult and does their homework before all decisions for them or their children.
Last edited by jaminhealth; 10-21-2017 at 03:37 PM..
Sayer Ji is the founder of the pseudoscience pushing website GreenMedInfo. Ji is a slightly different version of Mike Adams who runs his own pseudoscience pushing website, Natural News. To be honest, if you read a random article from either one, they sound alike, and they promote the same junk science. In case you wondering, they hate vaccines for all the same gibberish reasons that are pushed by all anti-vaccine websites.
Why are these articles bad?
Because the journals in which they were published are bad. Frontiers in Public Health (FPH) is not indexed in PubMed. And the Journal of Translational Science (JTS) is not indexed in PubMed. PubMed is one of the most valued resources in searching for biomedical articles, even in obscure journals. Both FPH and JTS lack an impact factor. As we mentioned above, both FPH and JTS are published by predatory publishers (one of the possible reasons that the journals are not indexed). There is nothing positive to say about these journals.
I wrote previously about what makes these articles so bad, but here’s a quick review. They use questionnaires instead of medical records, which brings in parental confirmation and observation bias to the research. The questionnaires only target home schooled children an internally biased group. Small study population. And many more issues
I don't know anyone who would take medical recommendations from a blog ...written by someone with a Bachelor's degree in biology and an internship in journalism.
I don't know anyone who would take medical recommendations from a blog ...written by someone with a Bachelor's degree in biology and an internship in journalism.
Unfortunately there are a lot of people that do. Fits their confirmation bias.
Tons of people consider reading some quacks blog "research".
"Because Pandemrix was associated with an increased risk of narcolepsy, it was withdrawn from the market. But Steinman is quick to point out that, even with that risk, the vaccine was far safer than being infected with swine flu. In the United States alone, the 2009 swine flu pandemic resulted in 274,304 hospitalizations and 12,469 deaths."
Now if you just go by Table B (page 5), it states deaths from “influenza AND pneumonia (which is more commonly bacterial vs viral)“ as 53,692. The crude death rate is calculated at 17.5 for that combined cause of death. Which is actually down from the 2008 rate at 21.6.
And since the thread is about children, the death rate from both influenza & pneumonia, for infants under 12 months was 5.9. Ages 1-4 was 0.9. Ages 5-14 was 0.6 & ages 15-24 was 1.0. (Table 9, page 34). Compared to ages 65-74 at 30.1, ages 75-84 at 105.9 & ages 85 & older at 413.5?
Children appear to have had a low-risk of dying from “influenza & pneumonia” & an even lower risk from dying from “just influenza”. And if that’s a Pandemic year, being ... lower than the non-pandemic year before?
Well, as you know, I’ve acknowledged that I’m mathematically challenged so I won’t come to conclusions here & now. I’m still sort of stuck on how they were able to state that Swine Flu killed 12,469 people when “All Flu but Only The Flu”; killed 2,819.
Now if you just go by Table B (page 5), it states deaths from “influenza AND pneumonia (which is more commonly bacterial vs viral)“ as 53,692. The crude death rate is calculated at 17.5 for that combined cause of death. Which is actually down from the 2008 rate at 21.6.
And since the thread is about children, the death rate from both influenza & pneumonia, for infants under 12 months was 5.9. Ages 1-4 was 0.9. Ages 5-14 was 0.6 & ages 15-24 was 1.0. (Table 9, page 34). Compared to ages 65-74 at 30.1, ages 75-84 at 105.9 & ages 85 & older at 413.5?
Children appear to have had a low-risk of dying from “influenza & pneumonia” & an even lower risk from dying from “just influenza”. And if that’s a Pandemic year, being ... lower than the non-pandemic year before?
Well, as you know, I’ve acknowledged that I’m mathematically challenged so I won’t come to conclusions here & now. I’m still sort of stuck on how they were able to state that Swine Flu killed 12,469 people when “All Flu but Only The Flu”; killed 2,819.
Adult influenza deaths are not reportable, so they are estimated. The 2,819 were the ones that were reported; they are not all the deaths.
Here is where the larger number comes from, an estimate that corrects for underreporting. The estimate of 12,469 has a range from 8,868 to 18,306.
"From 12 April 2009 to 10 April 2010, we estimate that approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3–89.3 million), 274 304 hospitalizations (195 086–402 719), and 12 469 deaths (8868–18 306) occurred in the United States due to pH1N1. Eighty-seven percent of deaths occurred in those under 65 years of age with children and working adults having risks of hospitalization and death 4 to 7 times and 8 to 12 times greater, respectively, than estimates of impact due to seasonal influenza covering the years 1976–2001. In our study, adults 65 years of age or older were found to have rates of hospitalization and death that were up to 75% and 81%, respectively, lower than seasonal influenza."
The pandemrix thing happened in my country, they're still investigating the connection (three studies happening this year at least). Have to admit it did scare me off the flu vaccine for a while, but it seems there might be a connection between swine flu itself and narcolepsy so not just the vaccine.
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