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Parent seeking advice how to discuss gun issue with friend’s parents, concerned with son going over to their house, good family, do not want to offend them

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Old 01-26-2009, 12:49 PM
 
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Maybe you misunderstood her, momof2 is not saying anything about women in general. She said SOME PEOPLE and went on to use her sister as an example. She is right, you have no business having a gun if you aren't willing to fire it. If you are the kind of person who would be too scared to pull the trigger in a situation that warranted it, you shouldn't pull one out to begin with, it is more likely to be used against you. That holds true for both men and women..

then i apologize, if you are not willing to pull the trigger on another human being then you probably should not have one. but also, women have had more guts to pull a trigger on a attacker than many men are.

you never know what a person will or wont do until they are confronted with that sort of situation.
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Old 01-26-2009, 12:51 PM
 
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A teenager can survive pregnancy.
you can also survive handling a AR15. it takes concious thinking to pull that trigger on a loaded firearm.
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Old 01-26-2009, 01:03 PM
 
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please do not say something that you have no idea of what you are talking about, women are the fastest group of up and coming group of firearm owners in the USA. my own girl friend owns more than 70 firearms.

your sister might use it or not, but when the possibility of having a crime commited against her, women are shown to have more willingness to use the firearm than men are.

when you have a woman weighing in at 105 lbs and 5'2" tall facing down an attacker that is 6'4" tall weighing more than 200 lbs, then having and knowing how to use a firearm more than equals out the difference in size.

pulling a pistol out is often enough to let someone know that you are not someone who will be a victim.
NO, my sister does NOT NEED a gun anywhere NEAR her possession. Even though she is a mom, married and all. She does NOT need a gun AT ALL!!! I wouldn't even trust her husband w/ a gun, no lie. For a few reasons that your not aware of:
1. She has a brain tumor.
2. She will NOT pull the trigger. She doesn't have the confidence nor the clarity to fire it safely with others in the vicinity that are innocent. I'd barely trust her w/ a baseball bat.
She is not the only female that I know that does not need a gun in their possession.

I'm 5'3" and I can shoot a gun and own several. I'm a better target than my husband. Which is something that most gun safety instructors will tell you, women tend to be more accurate than men. One even said that women that can play the piano or organ are even some of the best shooters.

And no, if you pull a gun you BETTER be prepared to fire it. That is practically lesson #1 in most concealed handgun classes. Nowdays, just pulling a gun just tells the other person it is time for a shootout if they happen to have a gun themselves. Just last week a man went to his mom's house to drop something off. He noticed the front door kicked in, got his gun (licensed CHL holder), went in w/ it drawn. The theif saw the gun and started firing. Fortunately the son was able to fire back and killed the scumbag.

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Maybe you misunderstood her, momof2 is not saying anything about women in general. She said SOME PEOPLE and went on to use her sister as an example. She is right, you have no business having a gun if you aren't willing to fire it. If you are the kind of person who would be too scared to pull the trigger in a situation that warranted it, you shouldn't pull one out to begin with, it is more likely to be used against you. That holds true for both men and women..

EXACTLY!


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then i apologize, if you are not willing to pull the trigger on another human being then you probably should not have one. but also, women have had more guts to pull a trigger on a attacker than many men are.

you never know what a person will or wont do until they are confronted with that sort of situation.
Some do, some don't. I've been around plenty that do NOT need one. I know what I'd do but I've been there, done that. Surprisingly, I was ULTRA calm, cool, collected. Able to get my gun, loaded, call 911 at the same time w/o skipping a beat and give clear details of exactly what was going on, etc.
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Old 01-26-2009, 01:06 PM
 
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They are locked up in an area that is OFF LIMITS even to my own children as they do NOT belong in the master bedroom or bathroom. Then again here in this area the masters are DOWNSTAIRS and not up. So if the kids are upstairs playing they can't sneak into the master w/o an adult knowing.
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There is nothing wrong with guns in the master bedroom, as long as they are in a proper safe. Even if my kids can get in my bedroom, they CANNOT get in my safe. We have two biometric safes, and only my husband and I can access them.

Having guns downstairs, isn't going to help you if you are sleeping upstairs.....

I'm NOT "sleeping upstairs". I clearly said that the master bedroom is DOWNSTAIRS! That is where I sleep. Here in this area masters are DOWNSTAIRS! Thank goodness as I much prefer it down for MANY reasons.
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Old 01-26-2009, 02:08 PM
 
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I'm NOT "sleeping upstairs". I clearly said that the master bedroom is DOWNSTAIRS! That is where I sleep. Here in this area masters are DOWNSTAIRS! Thank goodness as I much prefer it down for MANY reasons.
ok, I see what you wrote, but it is a bit contradicting. If you sleep downstairs, and the guns are downstairs in your bedroom...right? then why don't guns belong in master bedrooms, yours is no??
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Old 01-26-2009, 02:10 PM
 
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ok, I see what you wrote, but it is a bit contradicting. If you sleep downstairs, and the guns are downstairs in your bedroom...right? then why don't guns belong in master bedrooms, yours is no??


Read again, she said KIDS don't belong in the master bedroom.

Her master bedroom is downstairs, she sleeps downstairs, her guns are downstairs (in the master bedroom).
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Old 01-26-2009, 02:22 PM
 
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Read again, she said KIDS don't belong in the master bedroom.

Her master bedroom is downstairs, she sleeps downstairs, her guns are downstairs (in the master bedroom).
thank you! I kept thinking that she was saying the *guns* don't belong in the master bedroom!
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Old 01-26-2009, 02:54 PM
 
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Read again, she said KIDS don't belong in the master bedroom.

Her master bedroom is downstairs, she sleeps downstairs, her guns are downstairs (in the master bedroom).
Thanks.

Which brings me to ANOTHER point for the OP and others concerned about what MIGHT be in other peoples homes. What about porn? Do you ask them if they have porn in their homes? Cable TV? Who has access to it? The code to order movies on cable? Good friend teaches in a VERY well to-do area in an upper middle, upper classs neighborhood. One girl was over at another girls house after school playing. They went into the parents bedroom w/o mom knowing it. Locked the door (where the h e l l was mom?) and girl said, "we can watch my parents movies". Yep, mom & dad starring in their own video. Mom NEVER found them before they were finished but girl did tell her mom when she got home.

Another BIGGIE as they get older is the parents that think it is okay to serve teens alcohol. H E L L NO!!!! One parent even told me they take the kids car keys away when the show up and then they just all spend the night. Yep, boys AND girls DRUNK spending the night at a house where the parents think it is okay.

While guns might kill someone............ the above incidences are more likely to occur than the kids finding a gun and someone getting hurt from it. Worse, the above are CONDONED by the parents.
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Old 01-26-2009, 03:00 PM
 
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Thanks.

Which brings me to ANOTHER point for the OP and others concerned about what MIGHT be in other peoples homes. What about porn? Do you ask them if they have porn in their homes? Cable TV? Who has access to it? The code to order movies on cable? Good friend teaches in a VERY well to-do area in an upper middle, upper classs neighborhood. One girl was over at another girls house after school playing. They went into the parents bedroom w/o mom knowing it. Locked the door (where the h e l l was mom?) and girl said, "we can watch my parents movies". Yep, mom & dad starring in their own video. Mom NEVER found them before they were finished but girl did tell her mom when she got home.

Another BIGGIE as they get older is the parents that think it is okay to serve teens alcohol. H E L L NO!!!! One parent even told me they take the kids car keys away when the show up and then they just all spend the night. Yep, boys AND girls DRUNK spending the night at a house where the parents think it is okay.

While guns might kill someone............ the above incidences are more likely to occur than the kids finding a gun and someone getting hurt from it. Worse, the above are CONDONED by the parents.

I believe when it comes to alcohol it should only be up to the parents whether or not they want their kids to have alcohol. It's not the right of some "party parent" to give alcohol to other folks kids.

Incidentally, I got my first bottle of whisky at age 16, from my grandpa. But again, that's the business of the family, it's not for non-family/strangers to decide.
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Old 01-27-2009, 11:39 AM
 
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I guess that depends on what sort of complications she encounters. I didn't think a pregnancy was something to be taken lightly...

You can mitigate the risk a firearm poses by safely handling it, there's not much you can do to avoid pregnancy complications, if they're going to happen, they'll happen, the best you can hope for is to have prompt medical attention.
Complications from pregnancy are much rarer than complications from bullets moving around in the house. People get pregnant all the time, and the survival rate is surprisingly high. Also, pregnancy can be treated quite easily at any abortion clinic, as an outpatient elective.

If you are preparing yourself for a shoot-out in your house, you had better prepare for the consequences of bullets flying around, which are not always pretty.
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