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Old 10-27-2012, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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So a 50 year old making $12K a year should be worth 12K * 50 / 10 = $60K.

That's not realistic.
Neither is a 50 year old making $12K, or $1000 month or $6.25/hour.

I would expect a responsible 50 year old to have a lot more than $60K for a net worth - even if he is making $6.25 and hour.
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Old 10-27-2012, 08:30 PM
 
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Neither is a 50 year old making $12K, or $1000 month or $6.25/hour.

I would expect a responsible 50 year old to have a lot more than $60K for a net worth - even if he is making $6.25 and hour.

Presumably, to be worth "a lot more than $60K", a 50 year old would have had to save and invest a substantial sum of money over a number of years.

So how much do you expect someone making $12k a year to be saving?
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Old 10-27-2012, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Presumably, to be worth "a lot more than $60K", a 50 year old would have had to save and invest a substantial sum of money over a number of years.

So how much do you expect someone making $12k a year to be saving?
Ten percent is a good rule of thumb.
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:19 PM
 
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Good job, you found an exception to a rule. Obviously people who make only 12K for decades were not in mind for the rule of thumb above.
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:38 PM
 
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Presumably, to be worth "a lot more than $60K", a 50 year old would have had to save and invest a substantial sum of money over a number of years.

So how much do you expect someone making $12k a year to be saving?
For the umpteenth time:

We expect them to get off their ass and WORK to better the self, not be satisfied with something BELOW MINIMUM WAGE (which I don't buy)

If they don't care enough to TRY, (even if they constantly get on the Internet and try to attract attention, wanting someone to take putty on them or what, I don't know) then why should I?


Good rule of thumb from my understanding is if you save 15% of every $ you ever make... You'll be ok.
I'd recommending bettering that.


Eta:
I'd like a REALISTIC budget, including medical, unplanned expenses, recreation etc... Of someone making $1k/month.
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:22 AM
 
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Ten percent is a good rule of thumb.

Ten percent of $12K, is that realistic?
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Old 10-28-2012, 03:47 AM
 
Location: Censorshipville...
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So a 50 year old making $12K a year should be worth 12K * 50 / 10 = $60K.

That's not realistic.
It's also not realistic to think a "general rule" should apply to the outliers.

When I apply that "formula" to my situation, it's pretty close to what I have in liquid/illiquid assets - the mortgage debt. Every month that mortgage debt gets smaller and the assets get larger.
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Old 10-28-2012, 05:37 AM
 
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If they don't care enough to TRY, (even if they constantly get on the Internet and try to attract attention, wanting someone to take putty on them or what, I don't know) then ...
Putty!

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Old 10-28-2012, 09:59 AM
 
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For the umpteenth time:

We expect them to get off their ass and WORK to better the self, not be satisfied with something BELOW MINIMUM WAGE (which I don't buy)

If they don't care enough to TRY, (even if they constantly get on the Internet and try to attract attention, wanting someone to take putty on them or what, I don't know) then why should I?


Good rule of thumb from my understanding is if you save 15% of every $ you ever make... You'll be ok.
I'd recommending bettering that.


Eta:
I'd like a REALISTIC budget, including medical, unplanned expenses, recreation etc... Of someone making $1k/month.

Hey, I'm working on the income part, I have some online income which I expect to grow; I have $10K of inventory on hand.

Dunno about realistic but this is about what I've got now:

rent $400 (room in house)
utilities $75
taxes $150 (annual FIT $250, SIT $350, SS $350, SE $800 = $1750)
student loan $75
food $150
bus $35
internet $37
phone $15
everything else $63

Since income and utilities vary monthly, these are averages, and since not every expense is fixed, I have a little room to juggle things, and have an ample supply of nonperishable staples for leaner times.
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Old 10-28-2012, 10:05 AM
 
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Putty!

Where did you find that? I went to Google Images and got 10 pages of software screenshots before seeing any actual putty.
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