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Old 05-17-2017, 02:10 AM
 
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Most burger flippers are paid within a few cents of minimum wage to flip burgers. Perhaps they are paid much better in La Jolla given the cost of living there.

Oh wait, something isn't right. Professional burger flippers have an extremely low marriage rate.
lottamoxie was speaking ironically. The person described in his post was flipping burgers for fun in his own multi-million dollar home.
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Old 05-17-2017, 05:38 AM
 
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lottamoxie was speaking ironically. The person described in his post was flipping burgers for fun in his own multi-million dollar home.
Haha, this is kind of my dad, he's probably not a multimillionaire on paper, but easily a millionaire with a near 6 figure pension and he stocks shelves at the local grocery store for something to do.
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Old 05-17-2017, 08:56 PM
 
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lottamoxie was speaking ironically. The person described in his post was flipping burgers for fun in his own multi-million dollar home.

Yeah, I got that part. As a "rent serf" and a "wage slave" I am not amused when people mock the financially constrained.
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:07 PM
 
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I wasn't mocking anyone. I responded to, "Really? I've never met a millionaire burger flipper..." Sorry but you walked right into it and left it wide open and Internet law requires witty reparte if one is afforded the opportunity. It's not personal.

Anyone who is working for someone else is a "wage slave." The wages might be larger or smaller but someone else is ultimately in control and can affect whether one has a job or not. But one can still save something along the way, build up a cushion even if it's slowly. And back to the topic of this thread -- it doesn't require owning a house or getting an inheritance to eventually amass a net worth of $1M. It can be done and I happen to know people who have done it, over time, albeit slowly.
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:12 PM
 
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Of course they do.

People are driven to look for certain qualities in a potential spouse, one of which is successful personal development. Sure there are other factors and what everyone looks for is different. Things like being physically appealling, having a compatible personality, etc. all come into play but usually people want a partner who they perceive as having the potential to provide for themselves and their family. Fair or not someone who is well into adulthood but still has career flipping burgers is more likely to be someone who makes poor choices in life and lacks stability. So they pass.

I wouldn't say it "isn't right" there are examples of similar across the animal kingdom. The career burger flipper is the springbok from the bachelor herd that never manages to outbuck the alpha male from a breeding herd to get laid.

Depends largely on gender. Women can be low-wage slackers and still get married and/or laid. Men, not so much.
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:21 PM
 
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I wasn't mocking anyone. I responded to, "Really? I've never met a millionaire burger flipper..." Sorry but you walked right into it and left it wide open and Internet law requires witty reparte if one is afforded the opportunity. It's not personal.

Anyone who is working for someone else is a "wage slave." The wages might be larger or smaller but someone else is ultimately in control and can affect whether one has a job or not. But one can still save something along the way, build up a cushion even if it's slowly. And back to the topic of this thread -- it doesn't require owning a house or getting an inheritance to eventually amass a net worth of $1M. It can be done and I happen to know people who have done it, over time, albeit slowly.

People with careers have intangible benefits that, in my opinion, lift them above the "wage slave" class.

I've never seen a millionaire burger flipper and I have worked with many. Ayt my workplace, the employee home ownership rate is zero.
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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People with careers have intangible benefits that, in my opinion, lift them above the "wage slave" class.

I've never seen a millionaire burger flipper and I have worked with many. Ayt my workplace, the employee home ownership rate is zero.
Interesting. I got to know some of the employees at my local McDonald's. one of them was showing me pictures of the house she just bought. Not an expensive one mind you, but surprising to me.
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:49 AM
 
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Anyone who is working for someone else is a "wage slave." The wages might be larger or smaller but someone else is ultimately in control and can affect whether one has a job or not.
This line of reasoning is insulting to real slaves, who still exist in some parts of the world. Until 2009 I worked for someone for W2 wages, but I got to set my own hours to some extent, sit in a big office, have lunch in a fancy cafeteria, meet with the world's most successful investment managers, and save somewhere between $50,000 and $200,000 a year. Some slave.
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Old 05-18-2017, 06:36 AM
 
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Yeah, I got that part. As a "rent serf" and a "wage slave" I am not amused when people mock the financially constrained.
As a "mortgage serf" and "wage slave", I'm not amused when the entitled expect what I've worked and planned hard for.
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Old 05-18-2017, 08:26 AM
 
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Interesting. I got to know some of the employees at my local McDonald's. one of them was showing me pictures of the house she just bought. Not an expensive one mind you, but surprising to me.

I'd love to know how that happened, but a Subsidy Kid living for free with parents (no rent or other bills to pay) and working a minimum wage job could certainly do it, especially where there is a state or local homebuyer assistance program. I worked various jobs in high school (had paper routes, worked in deli, seasonally mowed lawns and shoveled snow) and in the early '70s I had saved up today's equivalent of $20K+. I might have even been able to buy a house back then, but I blew the money on college.
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