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Old 08-09-2017, 08:16 AM
 
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Assuming you move to a no tax state.....Wyoming, Washington, Texas, South Dakota, Nevada, Florida, Alaska) when you retire, do you just pay the federal taxes on your 401k withdrawal?



what if you move to another country when you retire? do you still pay the US fed tax on your withdrawal AND income tax in the new country? or is it one or the other?

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Old 08-09-2017, 08:22 AM
 
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Assuming your are over 59.5, you would just pay the applicable Federal Income Tax rate if you live in a Income Tax Free State.

If you depart the US, You still pay Federal Tax in the US, you might have Tax in the other country also. (You may also need to take steps to "renounce" living in your old state if that had a income tax). You might want to get a US mailing address at a mail forwarder in a "Tax" friendly state.
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Old 08-09-2017, 08:24 AM
 
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Fed only if you move to a no tax state. As for moving to another country, it would depend on the country whether there's a treaty exception for retirement income. As long as you maintain your US citizenship, you're taxable on your world wide income in the US.
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Old 08-09-2017, 08:49 AM
 
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There are a number of countries you can move to and pay the total of the higher rate. Example if you move to Spain and your income tax rate there would be 28% and it would be 25% in the US you still have to file a US return but won't owe additional taxes. Conversely if the rates swapped you would only owe 3% to the US. This is very rough but I believe with certain countries and tax treaties it can work like this
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Old 08-09-2017, 10:00 AM
 
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if you have a lot of 401k i suggest moving to a no state income tax state.
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Old 08-09-2017, 10:05 AM
 
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Fed only if you move to a no tax state. As for moving to another country, it would depend on the country whether there's a treaty exception for retirement income. As long as you maintain your US citizenship, you're taxable on your world wide income in the US.

So one could renounce their US citizenship and pay no Fed tax on 401K?
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Old 08-09-2017, 10:11 AM
 
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So one could renounce their US citizenship and pay no Fed tax on 401K?
It doesn't work quite like that

https://m.taxesforexpats.com/article...tizenship.html
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Old 08-09-2017, 11:36 AM
 
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good info in that link
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Old 08-11-2017, 07:41 AM
 
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Illinois doesn't tax retirement income.
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Old 08-16-2017, 07:47 AM
 
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so...technically, one could 'game the system' by withdrawing only 13k a year (current limit for a head of household) and not pay any taxes on their 401k stash....right? assuming of course they've allocated enough money in other accounts (IRAs, cash, etc.) to supplement the rest of the income they'd need in retirement...
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