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Old 10-11-2019, 10:44 AM
 
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I don't understand, please elaborate.
Explain your plan to you? No. HR can help explain your benefits.
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:55 AM
 
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Explain your plan to you? No. HR can help explain your benefits.
I understand my benefits just fine, but don't understand your pointless banter. If you pay into a pension, then how are the payments to you in the future free?
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:58 AM
 
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I understand my benefits just fine, but don't understand your pointless banter. If you pay into a pension, then how are the payments to you in the future free?
Reread my previous post. If your employer is contributing to your pension or 401k, that's free money. Not sure why this is difficult for you to comprehend.
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:00 AM
 
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Hey I’ll take whatever I can get. But personally I’d rather get 6% towards my 401k matched than a promise they may not keep.
I hear you. But then the stock market dives and your 401k gets pummeled as it did in the last recession for so many Boomers. We can't win!
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:07 AM
 
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Reread my previous post. If your employer is contributing to your pension or 401k, that's free money. Not sure why this is difficult for you to comprehend.
It's not free if I have to pay something to get it. That's my point.

I got a free bridge for you, you just have to pay me $1000 and I'll tell you were to find it...
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:11 AM
 
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Ok, well, fortunately for you, you don't have to understand it to take the money.
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:26 AM
 
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Well government is even worse with pensions. Illinois owes approximately 250 billion with a "b" and the Chicago pensions like Police and Fire are as little as 15-20% funded.

You simply can't trust others to invest for your retirement. That is something each individual must take ownership of which most won't.
That isn’t the case with all government pensions. Those that are contributory to social security tend to be doing better as do those with a more diversified workforce. Florida is something like 80-85% funded. Police and fire tend to do poorly because people can and typically do retire early. If you have someone who started at 24 retiring at 44 and collecting for 40 years with COLAs each year, it’s easy to have more people on the retirement rolls than people actually working. In Florida, people can either retire with 30 years or at 62, so you don’t get tons of people leaving the workforce at an extremely early age. Furthermore, the systems that contribute to social security make retiring before 62 less alluring since the retirement pay usually takes into account that you’ll also be getting social security.
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:44 AM
 
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I hear you. But then the stock market dives and your 401k gets pummeled as it did in the last recession for so many Boomers. We can't win!
Fortunately I have a ton of investment options available in my 401k so I'll take my chances over the long-haul and invest more safely as I get older.

If people choose to put it all in the stock market then that's their risk\business.
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:48 AM
 
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I went on-line and the present value of my GE pension option was about 70k so I am rolling it all over to my 401k.

If I waited 10 years or so it would have paid 850ish/month assuming it wouldn't be reduced.
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:10 PM
 
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Fortunately I have a ton of investment options available in my 401k so I'll take my chances over the long-haul and invest more safely as I get older.

If people choose to put it all in the stock market then that's their risk\business.
Yeah, that's pretty much the recommended route and what we're planning as well, though we are looking to diversify, too. Though I can still dream about lottery winnings or elderly far-flung rich relatives!
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