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Old 07-19-2023, 08:50 AM
 
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High-Earning Retirement Savers Are Losing Some of Their 401(k) Tax Break
Catch-up contributions will have to be done after taxes for those who make more than $145,000

https://www.wsj.com/articles/retirem...hare_permalink

Millions of high-earning Americans are slated to lose a popular tax deduction starting next year.
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Old 07-19-2023, 09:14 AM
 
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And when those high earners retire, those Roth accounts may help them avoid the IRMAA penalties.
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Old 07-19-2023, 11:49 AM
 
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In effect it is a new tax on someone making less than 400k...
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Old 07-19-2023, 12:11 PM
 
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A lot of "high earners" are likely better off putting some retirement money in a Roth. As already mentioned, IRMAA comes into play once a person goes on Medicare. Then there's the issue of surviving spouse filing single after the other passes, putting them into a higher set of tax brackets.

Guessing one's actual tax liability in retirement is not so easy.
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Old 07-19-2023, 02:04 PM
 
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We didn't have the benefit of Roth investment vehicles during most of my working career, but we did have the opportunity to contribute after-tax monies to our IRA accounts and 401(k) plans.

People are surprised when I mention that I have a cost basis in my RMD distributions because of these after-tax contributions.
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Old 07-25-2023, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Probably be OK for me. I will retire before my wife and probably need to delay SS for a few years (probably 3 years). Thus I can draw from a Roth without adding taxable income and tide me over until SS kicks in.



Does anyone know whether working part time here and there will restrict what I can withdraw from a Roth?



Lets say I am 63 at the time and make $65,000 doing occasional contract work. Would there be a limit on what I can withdraw from a Roth each year?


Thanks
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Old 07-25-2023, 06:48 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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Catch-up contributions will have to be done after taxes for those who make more than $145,000
That sounds just fine.
Next up? No limit on SS contribution and to include UN-earned income too.
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Old 07-25-2023, 07:09 AM
 
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That sounds just fine.
Next up? No limit on SS contribution and to include UN-earned income too.
What? You mean levying SS taxes on retirement income from investments? That would be crazy.
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Old 07-25-2023, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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My employer just switched our 401k plan to Fidelity, which offers both a traditional and a Roth option, and employees can split their contribution between the two options. As long as I can put 100% of the catchup contribution into the Roth option (in order to keep things simple from an accounting standpoint), I am fine with this. I NEED more money in Roth space!
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Old 07-25-2023, 09:31 AM
 
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Probably be OK for me. I will retire before my wife and probably need to delay SS for a few years (probably 3 years). Thus I can draw from a Roth without adding taxable income and tide me over until SS kicks in.

Does anyone know whether working part time here and there will restrict what I can withdraw from a Roth?

Lets say I am 63 at the time and make $65,000 doing occasional contract work. Would there be a limit on what I can withdraw from a Roth each year?

Thanks

There are no income rules related to Roth withdrawals. There is, however, the 5-year rule on withdrawals. This explains it pretty well.


https://www.investopedia.com/ask/ans...periodroth.asp
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