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An interesting article and interview with theoretical physicist Lawrence Krauss that may explain why the only two topics that seem to make it in the Religion and Philosophy forum, religions and science.
Noah Feldman makes a searing case that both politics and religion -- whatever their differences -- are similar technologies, designed to efficiently connect and manage any group of people.
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I know this thread will drop like a stone, but Philosophy is definitely not obsolete. Every time the interviewer brought a counter-point to the author, the author would make statements like, "Oh I'm just stirring the pot." Or, "Well, those Philosophers were Mathmeticians, so they were Scientists..."
Philosophy is rooted in Logic and is the foundation of Science. Philosophy will progress (and has progressed the boundaries of logic unlike the author thinks) from those roots and will aide Science. It's not some good and evil battle.
Religion is a way of life rooted in belief and moral codes, and doesn't really belong in this conversation.
It just looks like a way to be controversial in order to sell his book.
I know this thread will drop like a stone, but Philosophy is definitely not obsolete. Every time the interviewer brought a counter-point to the author, the author would make statements like, "Oh I'm just stirring the pot." Or, "Well, those Philosophers were Mathmeticians, so they were Scientists..."
Philosophy is rooted in Logic and is the foundation of Science. Philosophy will progress (and has progressed the boundaries of logic unlike the author thinks) from those roots and will aide Science. It's not some good and evil battle.
Religion is a way of life rooted in belief and moral codes, and doesn't really belong in this conversation.
It just looks like a way to be controversial in order to sell his book.
Good point. This is a last straw marketing ploy. It is a trick based in what could be termed "incompleteness"
The idea is to trick & lure a person into thinking they have the answer, can tell the world about it when interacting and show huge greatness
a cheap way to avoid the incredible low figures in books which actually get published. Communication is exploding and telling man two different things,
he is the greatest...and he is a dumb donkey toward ease in collective existence.
The book underlines the push toward the extreme, an extreme which is being exposed in almost everything in order to get at the intended, rationally moderate.
Has mathematics made physics 'obsolete'? Theoretical physicists 'defeated' experimental physicists in the academic world in the ongoing controversy surrounding string theory, although the latter is widely considered a philosophy and not 'real science'. In physics right now, mathematicians are the ultimate 'authority'.
The Nazis dismissed theoretical physics and called it 'Jewish physics', the field has always been surrounded by controversy because it primarily deals with philosophy and mathematical models, and not reality as we commonly understand it. Deutsche Physik - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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In pure mathematics, debate has been raging for over a century about set theory. Is it a philosophy, is it mathematics? Most experimental physicists don't understand string theory well, most mathematicians 'struggle' with the concept of the infinite, and it's the root of the problem. Philosophy is 'hard', mentally exhausting, even for the minds of most scientists.
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