02-03-2011, 10:45 PM
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wondering why a certain bank would not move on a listing price of a condo? We put in offer and they came back saying they would not move on price. Is this normal? Is it because it wa sonly listed for 20 days? or is it because its a certain bank. If we go higher, would you think they would change their mind? Opinions plz
02-03-2011, 10:59 PM
Location: Tempe, Arizona
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Yes, banks usually will not move much on price within a month of the last price change. How far off their price were you? Was your price within the range of recent comparable sales? Are you offering cash? Cash and a fast close are good motivators for banks.
02-03-2011, 11:13 PM
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yes it is cash.. we took off the amount it would cost for a fridge and washer n dryer..that the other units included. do you think we should counter offer? Or is it pointless for now. We do have a realitor but always like more opinions. She feels we should pay what they ask.
02-04-2011, 04:29 AM
Location: Gilbert - Val Vista Lakes
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What is the value of the house, as opposed to the listed price?
What are the comps?
Are there others like it available?
How badly do you want the house?
How fast do you need to be in a property?
Is it a bargain at the listed price?
Are there likely to be more offers?
What is your alternative if you don't get this house?
You need to answer all those questions for yourself.
If you selected your Realtor properly then you'll have one who knows your needs and requirements; knows the market; knows how banks operate; knows the current market value of the house; and knows how to present offers and negotiate them. She is your best counsel. That's why you hired her.
02-04-2011, 05:14 AM
Location: Hillsboro Beach
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Candygirl, must of the banks are open to multiply offers and they accept the best and highest price. Usually they take a long time to make a desition but if you have a realtor it does not mind how much hard he or she will work for you when actually the agent/broker who represents the bank does not bother at all when comes to communicate and follow up in timely maner. You have to arm yourself with a lot of patience when comes to buy a foreclosure property.
02-04-2011, 07:34 AM
Location: Tempe, Arizona
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All great questions from Captain Bill that you need to consider.
02-04-2011, 09:49 AM
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Not sure if I want this one that bad...or I am just wanting it because my husband and bank are at a stalemate. Do you think we should put offers in on short sales while we continue to look at foreclosures? I don't want to wait months for a property to go through on a short sale ...but who knows maybe thats going to be the perfect one.
Being from canada makes it difficult, we have gone down once and will go down again within 2 weeks, if we say something we like.
02-04-2011, 12:01 PM
Location: Gilbert - Val Vista Lakes
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
candygirl39
Not sure if I want this one that bad...or I am just wanting it because my husband and bank are at a stalemate. Do you think we should put offers in on short sales while we continue to look at foreclosures? I don't want to wait months for a property to go through on a short sale ...but who knows maybe thats going to be the perfect one.
Being from canada makes it difficult, we have gone down once and will go down again within 2 weeks, if we say something we like.
I don't recommend putting in more than one offer at a time. If you put an offer in on two short sales and then back out of one when it's getting close to the trustee sale date, it may be too late for that seller to get another offer and may lose the home to foreclosure.
Whereas. had you not made the offer on that home, they would still have had it on the market and would have more of a chance to get a serious buyer.
Because buyers were doing that (making multiple offers), it has caused many sellers agents to require a non-refundable deposit to protect their sellers.
Also, if you elect to make more than one offer, that could be considered a material fact that the seller should know, and it should be disclosed in your offer that you are making multiple offers.
That may keep you and your agent from being sued for damages if the sellers home gets foreclosed and you did not disclose that you have made multiple offers.
You're asking many questions that you should be asking your Realtor. She is your best counsel in these situations. If she is not sure of the answer then she can get the answer from her broker, or will refer you to an attorney for legal advice.
You could get some bad advice from people here that do not understand the real estate laws, and that could cause you a lot of trouble later on.
You state that you don't want to wait months on short sales. Then don't look at short sales because it will take months, and your offer may be rejected after several months.
Your best bet is to make an offer on regular sales or bank owned sales. Again, you really need to get all this advice from your Realtor. That's what she's getting paid for.
02-05-2011, 12:20 AM
Location: Cave Creek, AZ USA
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Quote:
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Captain Bill
Because buyers were doing that (making multiple offers), it has caused many sellers agents to require a non-refundable deposit to protect their sellers.
That happened with the house I bought. But the deposit was only $500, which is a trivial amount to forfeit in a real estate transaction. Worse yet (for the sellers), the deposit was refundable after 60 days. So I just had to kill the deal after 60 days for any reason to get my money back. Stupid, stupid listing agent. But we really loved the place and were willing to wait the six mos. it took for their bank to approve the short sale. There were a lot of shenanigans in this deal on the sellers' and listing agent's behalf. In fact, I still get their mail (no forwarding address) and the seller got a 1099 for the commission (kickback) she got from her listing agent.
02-05-2011, 04:25 AM
Location: Gilbert - Val Vista Lakes
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Quote:
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Rick Lee
That happened with the house I bought. But the deposit was only $500, which is a trivial amount to forfeit in a real estate transaction. Worse yet (for the sellers), the deposit was refundable after 60 days. So I just had to kill the deal after 60 days for any reason to get my money back. Stupid, stupid listing agent. But we really loved the place and were willing to wait the six mos. it took for their bank to approve the short sale. There were a lot of shenanigans in this deal on the sellers' and listing agent's behalf. In fact, I still get their mail (no forwarding address) and the seller got a 1099 for the commission (kickback) she got from her listing agent.
That's strange. On a short sale, the banks do not allow the seller to gain any money on the transaction, not even a rebate of the commission. The net to the seller must say -0- in the field, or the bank won't approve the deal.
I'm not doubting your word, I'm just wondering how the bank let that slip through.
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Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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