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Old 01-13-2013, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Kittanning
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Uniontown only looks like that because Hardy invested big bucks to preserve the town.
But how were so many of the other towns allowed to fall so far? It's like nobody cared in the least - city goverments included. Visit downtown New Kensington or Jeannette. There's really no explanation for a downtown looking that bad. It's just pure neglect.
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:19 AM
 
Location: The Flagship City and Vacation in the Paris of Appalachia
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I am surprised Upper St. Clair is below 20,000, it sure doesn't feel that way driving through or visiting the area.
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:34 AM
 
Location: North Oakland
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Uniontown only looks like that because Hardy invested big bucks to preserve the town.
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But how were so many of the other towns allowed to fall so far? It's like nobody cared in the least - city goverments included. Visit downtown New Kensington or Jeannette. There's really no explanation for a downtown looking that bad. It's just pure neglect.
When you paint your masterpiece, you can rush in for renovation rescue.
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Hard to believe McKeesport still has such a large population. 20k people and their downtown looks like that. Same goes for New Kensington - 13k people and their downtown looks like a bomb hit it. Compare them to Uniontown or Greensburg, which have smaller populations and beautifully kept (and larger) downtowns.
The people who live in McKeesport that have decent jobs go to North Versailles or Monroeville, Waterfront, West Mifflin/Pleasant Hills and care not for the Downtown in McKeesport. Why they let it go is another matter...my guess is they no longer had the critical mass of population to keep it up and with no significant outside investment need to divert their local dollars from taxpayers to other, more basic things. That's a lot of vacant buildings to fill - McKeesport used to have over 50,000 people.

Uniontown and Greensburg to varying extents have different demographics than McKeesport, but, also benefit from their semi-isolation - they are the biggest thing around in their proximity, whereas someone living in a former mill town like Duquesne of McKeesport with a decent job (or pension - drive down a well-kept street in Duquesne and note the age of anyone you happen to see outside in the yard) just drives an extra 10 minutes to a brand new shopping center or whatever in the next town over.
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Old 01-14-2013, 01:07 PM
 
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I am surprised Upper St. Clair is below 20,000, it sure doesn't feel that way driving through or visiting the area.
Assuming red numbers means decreasing population, it doesnt really surprise me. The school district continues to attract people but there is not enough new construction there, which means to keep the rate of school district and township funding at the levels they are used to they have to keep jacking up the property taxes every year. And the more they go up, the more people bail out and move to Peters next door where the property taxes are much more reasonable.
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Old 01-14-2013, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Washington County, PA
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Assuming red numbers means decreasing population, it doesnt really surprise me. The school district continues to attract people but there is not enough new construction there, which means to keep the rate of school district and township funding at the levels they are used to they have to keep jacking up the property taxes every year. And the more they go up, the more people bail out and move to Peters next door where the property taxes are much more reasonable.
Plus, you must account the fact that USC has a high elderly population, and very few high density buildings.
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Old 01-15-2013, 03:09 AM
 
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Adams and Pine are puny...most of the growth is still in Washington County.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:27 AM
 
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Yes- problem # 1 is the amount of land left to develop on there, problem # 2 is all the people who think that once they live there, no one should be able to build any more homes.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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But how were so many of the other towns allowed to fall so far? It's like nobody cared in the least - city goverments included. Visit downtown New Kensington or Jeannette. There's really no explanation for a downtown looking that bad. It's just pure neglect.
No, it's lack of people living there with solid incomes.
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