08-17-2007, 02:18 PM
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rosekatherine
Sure you all would call me over protective and nuts, but get the feeling if you have kids you raised them in a different generation.
Different generation? That's hillarious! Most of us in this thread are still raising our children.
I highly recommend reading the article I posted.
09-03-2007, 05:55 PM
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love that some of you are still "raising your children"....too bad you don't consider that today we all know (or should know) better than our parents did when we were growing up. any place that says than any parent can not drop in sounds strange to me and I am not going to apologize for that.the point of the original question was because someone felt uncomfortable with the "no parents allowed policy" and I don't blame her at all. I can let my kids go, but only to a point, I am not a "drop off mom" and neither am I an "over protective mom". where do pediphiles work...oh yeah with kids....you know coaches, preists, teachers, ect. have you ever seen the "To Catch A Predator" series? Teachers, Rabbi, Coach....getting my point. as far as gymnastics, my daughter was 5 years old, the teacher was rude and ignorant when the parents where there and I could only imagine what she would be like when they were not there and I don't want my daughter told she was "too big" for gymnastics which happens often. I would be fine if she were a teenager who should know what is and is not right but younger children should be protected and if you don't see that and have kids under 13/14, shame on you for being naive.
09-03-2007, 06:13 PM
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Nope, I gotta agree -- I would not be comfortable with a program where I was banned from most of the building. My 4 yr old goes to classes that I leave her in by herself, but I always go with her the first day, check out the equipment, meet the teachers, make sure my child understands where the bathrooms are, who to ask for things, etc. I don't think parents should hang around the classroom while class is going on, but they should be able to pick up kids from classrooms and be familiar with the environment and teachers.
09-03-2007, 07:15 PM
Location: southwestern PA
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. My 4 yr old goes to classes that I leave her in by herself, but I always go with her the first day, check out the equipment, meet the teachers, make sure my child understands where the bathrooms are, who to ask for things, etc.
Well, yeah. I did that, too... and then I let my kid be.
I did not hover day after day....
09-03-2007, 08:04 PM
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I'm glad this thread has taken this turn-around. In my state, it is illegal for a child care center to refuse parents admission. I was ready to turn in one of the ski areas due to such a policy. I'm not so sure about "clubs" where classes are held, but I too disagree with stringent policies of this nature.
09-04-2007, 05:09 PM
Location: South Hills
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Heinz House doesn't state, you cant be in the building.(They do adult classes and a brand new exercise facility for parents)..Nor do they state, you cant meet the instructors.. Where did you get that information from...
09-04-2007, 05:24 PM
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Heinz House doesn't state, you cant be in the building.(They do adult classes and a brand new exercise facility for parents)..Nor do they state, you cant meet the instructors.. Where did you get that information from...
Yes, and then we get some of the same people defending a mother trying to rent an apartment, find a job, and buy furniture for a 22 yr. old who is 400 miles away.
10-08-2007, 03:34 PM
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easy solution
The easiest solution to your concerns is to become an adult volunteer while you child attends programs. As a volunteer, you have to apply for Act 33 clearance and be subjected to a background check. That way SHH can show that the adults in the building with the children are not likely to subject them to harm. As a volunteer you can see the high quality of people that are involved at SHH and also contribute positvely to the development of your child and all the other members. As you may have guessed, I am an active volunteer ar SHH and my nine-year old son is a member. I have been a weekly volunteer for 15 years and never once seen any questionable activities among the adults and members. Problems occur when parents or members don't respect the rules or each other and think they are above them. There are also many opportunities to attend family activities and meet the staff and volunteers to see how SHH works. I was a member of SHH and have known most of the staff and volunteers as a child or when they were children. I have no hesitations leaving my son in the hands of this organization since I know their only job is being a childrens center. Pittsburgh is lucky to have this place.
10-08-2007, 04:11 PM
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Hi--
I've heard of this club for kids and it sounds amazing.
I was looking at the website (
Sarah Heinz House ) and I noticed that they do not allow parents into most of the building, just in the main hall to drop off and pick up the kids. This struck me as very odd. Maybe it's a bit of the Mother Bear showing up, but does anyone have any experience with this boys and girls' club? Apparently it's been around for a very long time, and has pretty lofty goals.
It sounds great, but a few of my red flags went up...
Hello, I just signed my kids up for their and yes, you can only enter the front hallway.. adults not allowed through the rest of the building.
I've thought about it when they told me that and the more I thought about it the more it made sence.. If adults just wondered around teh building, then more staff would be needed to make sure that adults arent doing stuff theys houldnt be doing. Also, since they finger print the children, if something happens inside the building, its easier to find out who did it.
Furthermore, its most likely to keep adults from telling children to do something, contradictory to what the "teachers" are telling them. how many times have you seen parents interefere with childrens activities..
10-08-2007, 04:12 PM
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Heinz House doesn't state, you cant be in the building.(They do adult classes and a brand new exercise facility for parents)..Nor do they state, you cant meet the instructors.. Where did you get that information from...
Adults are not allowed any further then the waiting area inside the front door, unless its "family" night..
While they have adult activities, the hours are different.
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Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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