Pittsburgh 24/7 District (Berlin, Bloomfield, Oakland: to buy, college, live in)

[Blackbeauty212]

Originally Posted by raubre

How did that happen????

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[ForYourLungsOnly]

sorry, but SF does NOT have better transit than Boston, DC or Chicago. I'd take that list with a grain of salt the size of texas

[UKyank]

So only 8% of workers use transit to get to work here? That doesnt seem like PAT's presence or absence would be all that earth shattering.

[Hopes]

Originally Posted by UKyank

So only 8% of workers use transit to get to work here? That doesnt seem like PAT's presence or absence would be all that earth shattering.

Absence would prevent the impoverished from getting to the grocery store, doctors' appointments, etc.

[greg42]

I'm sure it's a lot more than 8% in Downtown and Oakland. The gridlock there would be insane.

[UKyank]

Originally Posted by Hopes

Absence would prevent the impoverished from getting to the grocery store, doctors' appointments, etc.

They manage to do all those things in areas served with no mass transit

[gg]

Pittsburgh is more of a bible belt kind of place. It dies around 2:00AM at the latest. This ain't Miami or NYC.

[ctoocheck]

To get 24/7 activity in an area, I would think you probably need to meet at least a three of these conditions:
-a very high density of residents in close proximity (preferably walking distance)
-a large number of night-shift as well as day-shift workers (i.e. those that HAVE TO be out at off-hours)
-a large demographic that chooses to be out at off-hours (chiefly students I'd think)
-a mix of uses with activity every part of the day (and night, and morning...like in the Strip to some degree)

Of course, as Brian mentioned, a 2:00 last call is probably prohibitive to the creation of any such area.

[escilade18]

Originally Posted by ctoocheck

To get 24/7 activity in an area, I would think you probably need to meet at least a three of these conditions:
-a very high density of residents in close proximity (preferably walking distance)
-a large number of night-shift as well as day-shift workers (i.e. those that HAVE TO be out at off-hours)
-a large demographic that chooses to be out at off-hours (chiefly students I'd think)
-a mix of uses with activity every part of the day (and night, and morning...like in the Strip to some degree)

Of course, as Brian mentioned, a 2:00 last call is probably prohibitive to the creation of any such area.

What is odd is that Oakland seems to meet the criteria, yet it is not anywhere close to being a 24/7 activity area. Maybe the last call laws prohibit that

[Hopes]

Originally Posted by ctoocheck

To get 24/7 activity in an area, I would think you probably need to meet at least a three of these conditions:
-a very high density of residents in close proximity (preferably walking distance)
-a large number of night-shift as well as day-shift workers (i.e. those that HAVE TO be out at off-hours)
-a large demographic that chooses to be out at off-hours (chiefly students I'd think)
-a mix of uses with activity every part of the day (and night, and morning...like in the Strip to some degree)

Points 1 though 3 define Oakland.

Originally Posted by ctoocheck

Of course, as Brian mentioned, a 2:00 last call is probably prohibitive to the creation of any such area.

Even many NYC neighborhoods have been switching to 2:00am last call.

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