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If you are counting Etna and Millvale, you should throw Sharpsburg in there as well. All of them have walkable CBD's, but you have to drive to a grocery store.
I'm not too familiar with either of them and hence the purpose of this thread. If they are missing that element, I'd bump them down to a third tier.
It has a bank, a post office, an Ace Hardware, a flower shop, some bars, restaurants, and a Family Dollar. I would say it has at least as much as Beechview and maybe Mt. Washington.
Also, what do you mean by everything? Lebo is nice and you can do yoga, but you can't buy groceries.
Mount washington has a shop and save, but I'm agreeing brookline on the same level. I just forgot to put it on my original list. It was just what I thought off the top of my head.
Mount washington has a shop and save, but I'm agreeing brookline on the same level. I just forgot to put it on my original list. It was just what I thought off the top of my head.
That is what Mt. Oliver has, not Brookline. Sorry for the confusion.
OK... if having a grocery store in walking distance from the cbd is a criterion, then a lot would have to be eliminated.
That's the strange thing I find about trying to quantify "walkable neighborhood" - because there is no mathematical or statistical way (at least in my mind) to prove it.
Sure an area like Mount Lebanon might not have a full service grocery store like Giant Eagle/Shop n Save etc, but if that's the only metric - the areas of Cranberry adjacent to their grocery stores would be considered walkable, and I think we can all agree its not.
I wanted to get a little more insight on some of the original posted areas - from residents to see if they think they are walkable or only partially walkable. Sure if Millvale has X, X, X and X but doesn't have a grocery store, is it still walkable or not? That's my point having this thread. To almost - see what the majority of people on here think what needs to be in an area to have it considered walkable, and to see how it applies to areas that are on the fence of being walkable.
That's the strange thing I find about trying to quantify "walkable neighborhood" - because there is no mathematical or statistical way (at least in my mind) to prove it.
Sure an area like Mount Lebanon might not have a full service grocery store like Giant Eagle/Shop n Save etc, but if that's the only metric - the areas of Cranberry adjacent to their grocery stores would be considered walkable, and I think we can all agree its not.
I wanted to get a little more insight on some of the original posted areas - from residents to see if they think they are walkable or only partially walkable. Sure if Millvale has X, X, X and X but doesn't have a grocery store, is it still walkable or not? That's my point having this thread. To almost - see what the majority of people on here think what needs to be in an area to have it considered walkable, and to see how it applies to areas that are on the fence of being walkable.
Oakmont for sure is walkable, as is Verona (not sure if that was on your list or not)
Beechview has the IGA, but I'd hardly call it walkable. It lacks a lot of retail, and it's probably the hilliest place in Pittsburgh. There are streets in Beechview that would make a goat hesitate.
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