Hillary Clinton on stage in Pgh. 5,100 in attendance. 1,500 overflow crowd outside (Pittsburgh: average, working)

[MountainDewGuy]

Originally Posted by rickms

He made comments against the ACA (again, everything must be pure) and suggested running against Obama in 2012 (or supporting someone who did) so yes, her comments were fair.



You didn't read my comments.

Plenty of people were in favor of universal coverage, which doesn't mean they were against the ACA. To them, the ACA doesn't do enough. I voted for Jill Stein in 2012, doesn't mean I'm against Obama. Suggesting that Sanders wa against either, was a scare tactic that works on some people.

[rickms]

Plenty of people were in favor of universal coverage, which doesn't mean they were against the ACA.

Yes, but I was responding to plenty of people, I was responding to the comments above.

I voted for Jill Stein in 2012, doesn't mean I'm against Obama

That's fine, but again, I was responding to the comments above.

[stburr91]

Originally Posted by Merge

Yeah. You know... this thread was not started to discuss your theories about whether or not you think the primary was rigged. It wasn't started to solicit your predictions for what will happen on a national level. It wasn't even started to discuss the merits of flag-burning... although that is at least tangentially-related, as it occurred outside of a PGH rally for Clinton.

Kindly keep the comments to how Clinton's message may or may not resonate in PGH... OR try to present something... or anything... that makes your post relevant to the Pittsburgh subforum. There is a politics city data board for general political debates.

Thanks.

Well, to stay on topic, Hillary wants to get the banks involved in paying for our infrastructure. Under her proposal, she would create "infrastructure banks", private banks would lend up to half the money for the infrastructure spending.

More spend now, and leave the next generation further in debt.

I don't think that will play well with many in this area.

[Goinback2011]

How would these "banks" be funded?

[stburr91]

Originally Posted by Goinback2011

How would these "banks" be funded?

I never take any of these types of proposals seriously, but from what I've read, the banks would lend the money for the infrastructure programs. The proposal calls for up to a quarter of a trillion dollars to be loaned from the banks.

[Goinback2011]

Originally Posted by stburr91

I never take any of these types of proposals seriously, but from what I've read, the banks would lend the money for the infrastructure programs. The proposal calls for up to a quarter of a trillion dollars to be loaned from the banks.

Yeah, Pittsburgh just needs lots of debt and interest payments.

[SteelCityRising]

I'm coming around to supporting Hillary after Debbie Wasserman Schultz rightfully stepped down once e-mails from within the DNC leaked that showed officials scheming long ago to try to derail Bernie's campaign. If Debbie kept her job, I'd be campaigning pretty hard for Jill Stein right now, and HRC's die-hard fans would have only the DNC to blame for alienating we Bernie Bros to the point of handing Trump the presidency.

As of yesterday I have health insurance again (thank God), but living without health insurance for years because the ACA just didn't work for the low-earning self-employed in this country proves to me that HRC is useless if she's not going to push for universal health care. I'm also not confident she's going to do diddley-squat about the worsening socioeconomic inequality in this country, fueled by Wall Street avarice. The rich are getting richer. The middle-class is getting squeezed out of existence.

[Sciulli]

"HRC is useless if she's not going to push for universal health care"

Obama would have if he could have. I believe it's Hillary's intention to. Baby steps I guess.

the way I look at it, even if there was a Republican controlled Congress and they blocked every single thing Hillary proposed over 4 or 8 years, it would be preferable to racist/crazy/bigot Trump. Plus Hillary should be able to pick a handful of Supreme Court justices which should slowly bring about more equality.

[tyovan4]

Originally Posted by SteelCityRising

The middle-class is getting squeezed out of existence.

But its the very taxes such as the increase in the real estate transfer tax that you support that is helping to do the squeezing

[stburr91]

Originally Posted by SteelCityRising

I'm coming around to supporting Hillary after Debbie Wasserman Schultz rightfully stepped down once e-mails from within the DNC leaked that showed officials scheming long ago to try to derail Bernie's campaign. If Debbie kept her job, I'd be campaigning pretty hard for Jill Stein right now, and HRC's die-hard fans would have only the DNC to blame for alienating we Bernie Bros to the point of handing Trump the presidency.

As of yesterday I have health insurance again (thank God), but living without health insurance for years because the ACA just didn't work for the low-earning self-employed in this country proves to me that HRC is useless if she's not going to push for universal health care. I'm also not confident she's going to do diddley-squat about the worsening socioeconomic inequality in this country, fueled by Wall Street avarice. The rich are getting richer. The middle-class is getting squeezed out of existence.

Within 24 hours of Debbie Wasserman Schultz stepping down at the DNC, Hillary gave her a position on her campaign. That's right, Wasserman Schultz is now working for Hillary, if you can believe that. I don't understand how Hillary could give Wasserman Schultz a position on her campaign, logic would dictate that Hillary would distance herself from the person that was attempting to influence the outcome of the primaries.

Also, Hillary has been pretty clear that she intends to expand ACA for women, children, and illegals. So men that work for a living aren't going to get help from Hillary. In fact, our taxes will go up to pay for those that will get increased help under Hillary's plan.

If you want to vote for Hillary, that is your business, but know what you are voting for.

Also know she stated she will increase muslim immigration form the middle east by 550%. She wants to bring in millions of people that fundamentally oppose your lifestyle. Every estimate I've seen states about 15%-20% of islamic muslins are radicalized.

Hillary wants to play Russian roulette with the LGBT community's lives.

If you vote for her, good luck, I hope you don't end up being one of the radical islam terrorist's victims.

Originally Posted by Sciulli

"HRC is useless if she's not going to push for universal health care"

Obama would have if he could have. I believe it's Hillary's intention to. Baby steps I guess.

the way I look at it, even if there was a Republican controlled Congress and they blocked every single thing Hillary proposed over 4 or 8 years, it would be preferable to racist/crazy/bigot Trump. Plus Hillary should be able to pick a handful of Supreme Court justices which should slowly bring about more equality.

Just remember that the Democrats controlled congress when ACA passed. They could have made any healthcare law they wanted, and the Republicans couldn't have done anything to stop them.

Single payer didn't happen because the Democrats didn't want it. Instead they had the insurance industry write the ACA.