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Old 09-16-2018, 10:20 AM
 
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That can be your opinion, but it doesn’t align with what is actually happening. Companies continue to move and expand in The DC metro area. If companies were losing money due to how expensive it is the trends would align with your opinion. Otherwise amazon would’ve left Seattle as well. It is a cost of doing business. Business is about location, location and location

So here in West Virginia, there is a lot of growth in 3 counties. Jefferson County, West Virginia is the wealthiest county in the state where income averages 70K a year. It is part of the DC metropolitan area. It is growing and housing is very expensive there. It may be the cheapest place to live in the DC area but it appears to cost more for housing there than any counties surrounding Pittsburgh. Economic development officials credit this to being in the DC metro. It hasn’t deterred business from moving there one bit.

I would rather see this happen in the northern panhandle or Pittsburgh but this is all about location location and location


https://www.wvnews.com/statejournal/...e97590764.html



The only large companies with many employees that are growing in DC metro, are getting their income from the fed govt. you continue to ignore that. Its the main factor there, by far.
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Old 09-16-2018, 03:02 PM
 
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The only large companies with many employees that are growing in DC metro, are getting their income from the fed govt. you continue to ignore that. Its the main factor there, by far.

huh! I never thought about it, but yes, the area has a dynamic economy - built on intellectual products and the service sector. Is there ANY manufacturing of consumer goods, or other items, in that area???
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Old 09-16-2018, 03:40 PM
 
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huh! I never thought about it, but yes, the area has a dynamic economy - built on intellectual products and the service sector. Is there ANY manufacturing of consumer goods, or other items, in that area???

There is some of course, but by far the big money is money that comes from the government, directly or indirectly. Government sponsered companies are big for example, USPS, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, FDIC, Amtrak, etc. Its not a logical place for a large non gov company to locate.
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Old 09-16-2018, 05:42 PM
 
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There is some of course, but by far the big money is money that comes from the government, directly or indirectly. Government sponsered companies are big for example, USPS, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, FDIC, Amtrak, etc. Its not a logical place for a large non gov company to locate.
interesting. i lived there, like a lot of people from this area, in search of the big bucks....and there is money to be made there for hard working people. leave your soul and humanity at the door, though, as you sacrifice that for the interior of your car, where you will spend a lot of time and learn to hate all living things on two legs around you.

we are now staring down October. what is the news or word, or date of disclosure, for this, if anyone knows? Is Amazon stalling?
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Old 09-16-2018, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Weirton, W. Va.
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Yep we def agree on that. Pittsburgh, and all of PA could benefit from more policies that encourage and promote small biz creation and development. They actually hire more people than big business.
And that could help Pittsburgh more. I’d rather have hundreds of small businesses starting up each year over a variety of employment sectors, than putting all of its eggs in one basket. The state and local governments need to make better policy to encourage business startups. It just feels like there is no vision by the local leaders. All of the eggs are in the amazon basket. If we don’t get it then what? It feels like they have no plan and don’t care about being more business friendly with startups.

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The only large companies with many employees that are growing in DC metro, are getting their income from the fed govt. you continue to ignore that. Its the main factor there, by far.
Could you provide a source with data please?


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interesting. i lived there, like a lot of people from this area, in search of the big bucks....and there is money to be made there for hard working people. leave your soul and humanity at the door, though, as you sacrifice that for the interior of your car, where you will spend a lot of time and learn to hate all living things on two legs around you.

we are now staring down October. what is the news or word, or date of disclosure, for this, if anyone knows? Is Amazon stalling?
Bezos said they will announce it at the end of the year when he visited DC last week. Maybe they are having second thoughts and it may not happen or be as big as we have been led to believe.
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Old 09-16-2018, 07:24 PM
 
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Wow someone is not familiar with the DC area, if it's breaking news to them that large defense contractors exist and grow there because of it's DC.

But then again, they just wanted this thread closed and yet, still come back to it....
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:50 AM
 
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Bezos said they will announce it at the end of the year when he visited DC last week. Maybe they are having second thoughts and it may not happen or be as big as we have been led to believe.



If they do actually choose NoVA or Maryland, I predict it will be much smaller, less than 5,000 after 5 years.
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Old 09-18-2018, 06:33 AM
 
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Pittsburgh is at a tipping point for what? I didn’t research the employment numbers in the other 19 amazon finalists, but Pittsburgh tech employment is at 3.4 percent of the total jobs in the city. The US average is 3.0 percent. That hardly qualifies us as a tech hub. 0.4 percent more jobs than average.
So we're 13% above the national average. That's not a small difference. According to Forbes, our tech industry is growing at a fast rate too.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkot.../#79e9b1af38f6
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Old 09-18-2018, 12:29 PM
 
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One expert has eliminated Pittsburgh as well as Raleigh, Indianapolis, Austin, and Columbus.

https://patch.com/pennsylvania/pitts...esearcher-says

But as for building its own "city", I think Amazon would have the whole Mon valley to work with, if it wanted to.
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Old 09-18-2018, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Western PA
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I'm interested in finding out, after this is all over, how they really decided on which city they chose. Clearly, no city has everything they want. Some pundits were sure that the size of the tax subsidies would determine it. Some said housing costs. Some said transit infrastructure. Some said that they would only choose an urban setting. Some were sure it would be a suburban area. This latest researcher is sure they will build in the middle of nowhere in Northern Virginia.

After all this hubub and free publicity, what if they decided by throwing a dart at a map?
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