Frontier Airlines has added DIRECT San Diego-PIT service! (Pittsburgh, Mexico: hotel, transfer)

[Losfrisco]

Not sure if this is on anyone's radar, but I am super stoked about it as I have been complaining about this situation for a decade:


Frontier adds five nonstop flights from San Diego - The San Diego Union-Tribune

I live right next to the SAN airport, but almost always have to drive to LAX to fly to Pittsburgh because of the cheaper, direct flights from there (even with the two hour drive, your travel time ends up being less).

Pittsburgh people-no excuse to not come to San Diego now! 188 bucks round trip.

[pittsburghaccuweather]

Originally Posted by Losfrisco

Not sure if this is on anyone's radar, but I am super stoked about it as I have been complaining about this situation for a decade:


Frontier adds five nonstop flights from San Diego - The San Diego Union-Tribune

I live right next to the SAN airport, but almost always have to drive to LAX to fly to Pittsburgh because of the cheaper, direct flights from there (even with the two hour drive, your travel time ends up being less).

Pittsburgh people-no excuse to not come to San Diego now! 188 bucks round trip.

This is good news!

[WhoIsStanwix?]

Frontier. Ugh. I’d prefer to stick with one of the majors and have a layover. It will be interesting to see how this does.

[Losfrisco]

Originally Posted by WhoIsStanwix?

Frontier. Ugh. I’d prefer to stick with one of the majors and have a layover. It will be interesting to see how this does.

I knew this would be met with negativity. I've used Spirit to fly LAX-PIT and it was totally worth it to deal with their "baggage." Even with the carry on charge it was still like $100 cheaper, and it was a quick flight in the middle of the day. Flying SAN-PIT on a major usually means $350 to leave at midnight, ridiculous connection in a place like PHL or BOS, and then arrive in Pittsburgh five hours before you can check into your AirBnb/Hotel.

[WhoIsStanwix?]

Originally Posted by Losfrisco

I knew this would be met with negativity. I've used Spirit to fly LAX-PIT and it was totally worth it to deal with their "baggage." Even with the carry on charge it was still like $100 cheaper, and it was a quick flight in the middle of the day. Flying SAN-PIT on a major usually means $350 to leave at midnight, ridiculous connection in a place like PHL or BOS, and then arrive in Pittsburgh five hours before you can check into your AirBnb/Hotel.

It’s not the fees that get me, it’s the lack of options that I would have to get to my destination if something were to happen to the flight. Many of the discount carriers do not have agreements with other airlines to re-route you when issues arise. This effectively means less reliable travel. Generally, I don’t have the time to wait a day or more for the next available flight in this situation. Allegient is notorious for this

[gladhands]

Originally Posted by WhoIsStanwix?

It’s not the fees that get me, it’s the lack of options that I would have to get to my destination if something were to happen to the flight. Many of the discount carriers do not have agreements with other airlines to re-route you when issues arise. This effectively means less reliable travel. Generally, I don’t have the time to wait a day or more for the next available flight in this situation. Allegient is notorious for this

I haven’t flown frontier, but I’ve flown spirit and allegiant without issue. When I flew Spirit to Las Vegas even with paying for baggage and the “big front seat“, it was still $200 cheaper than flying Southwest, which is the only other nonstop to Vegas.

[pittsburghaccuweather]

Originally Posted by WhoIsStanwix?

Frontier. Ugh. I’d prefer to stick with one of the majors and have a layover. It will be interesting to see how this does.

This makes way more sense than the British airlines flight to London. I’d rather see them
push for flights to the west coast.

[gladhands]

Originally Posted by pittsburghaccuweather

This makes way more sense than the British airlines flight to London. I’d rather see them
push for flights to the west coast.

It really doesn’t. It’s nice but we already had direct flights to San Francisco and Los Angeles. San Diego is not a major business hub or transfer point. The London flight is far more beneficial to Pittsburgh. People drive from the Ohio cities to fly to London. They won’t do that for San Diego.

[pittsburghaccuweather]

Originally Posted by gladhands

It really doesn’t. It’s nice but we already had direct flights to San Francisco and Los Angeles. San Diego is not a major business hub or transfer point. The London flight is far more beneficial to Pittsburgh. People drive from the Ohio cities to fly to London. They won’t do that for San Diego.

Show me where it says San Diego is not a major business hub. You do realize a lot of folks say the same thing of Pittsburgh outside of city data land.

There isn’t enough traffic to support the London flight. As you tried to educate me in another thread about supply and demand. If there is so much demand why is the government subsiding the supply? Answer: There is very little if any demand. Otherwise they would add the London flight on their own and it would grow organically without government subsidies.

San Diego makes way more sense to connect Pittsburgh business and entrepreneurs to the west coast.

[Losfrisco]

Originally Posted by gladhands

It really doesn’t. It’s nice but we already had direct flights to San Francisco and Los Angeles. San Diego is not a major business hub or transfer point. The London flight is far more beneficial to Pittsburgh. People drive from the Ohio cities to fly to London. They won’t do that for San Diego.

San Diego is only "not a major business hub" when compared to the greater Los Angeles metro, which has an economy on the scale of Mexico or Iran. People from Ohio cities also drive 10 hours to mediocre Carolinas beaches...they wouldn't want to check out San Diego? Couldn't PIT be way more competitive by stacking up on west coast flights, taking advantage of being relatively closer than the coast cities? Flying to London is multiple days of travel...the direct flights to SAN, SFO, LAX are four hours and change.