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Old 06-12-2010, 02:28 PM
 
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You forgot Pelosi. Its really time for her to go.

Nope. Ms. Pelosi needs to stay. Harry Reid? No problem there - off he goes .... Looking forward to Chuck Schumer taking that position.
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Old 06-12-2010, 02:37 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Look at NJ, Conn, VA where Obama policies were rejected.
Nonsense. Those were just local campaigns where people talked almost exclusively on local issues. You can try to spin it as some how being national but then you'd be pulling it out of your backside.
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Old 06-12-2010, 03:10 PM
 
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I'll agree the democrats haven't been acting very liberal and that's pissed off the progressive base.
Proud to say a Democrat from my state ( Collin Peterson--D -MN ) hasn;t been acting very liberal.

He voted against every bailout bill and voted against the heathcare bill.
He voted the same as Michele Bachmann (R-MN) on those issues.

Both Bachmann and Peterson will win re-election this November.
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Old 06-12-2010, 04:07 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Judging by the primary results upwards of 90%+ of incumbents will win reelection.
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Old 06-12-2010, 04:45 PM
 
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primary results vs general election results is apples to oranges.
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Old 06-12-2010, 05:53 PM
 
Location: OUTTA SIGHT!
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BBC News - US election 2010: The fable of the endangered incumbent

For all the talk about voters being angry at incumbents there were only 4 Congressional incumbents who lost primary contests this year which is actually about the typical average. The vast, vast majority of incumbents sailed through without any trouble. There will no doubt be a few more incumbents who will lose seats in the Nov election but probably no more then 6 for a grand total of just 10 while the 40 year average is around 7 for just the primaries. If this tepid show is what passes for a "landslide" in the US then it is pathetic.
Guess that whole Tea Party thing didn't really pan out, huh?
Kinda sad in a way. I was hoping for a decent opponent to keep the Democrats on their toes.

By the way, as 'bad' as anyone thinks Obama is...just imagine John McCain and Sarah 'Drill Baby Drill' Palin in the hot seat.
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Old 06-12-2010, 07:00 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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America really does need a viable opposition party so it is sad to see the Republicans go completely loony.
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Old 06-12-2010, 09:27 PM
 
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I'd love to see some psychological or sociological study done on this subject. It is a phenomena that fascinates me and I suspect it resides along the line of a study done at ( I want to say Stanford)

In this study, they had three groups of students create a business plan based upon false or faulty data, but was unknown to them. The first group was to offer a one page essay, the second group a one page oral essay and the third group a full blown presentation.

The results were that when shown the premise was intentionally based upon flawed data, the first group abandoned their argument right off, the second group then tried to revise their argument based loosely on their prior work but the last group held fast to their data and essentially rationalized bit of it to make it "fit or work".

The conclusion was that depending on how strongly or how much effort a group puts into a position, the more apt they are to defend it, even in the wake of finding it all bunk, they cling to it and refuse to abandon it.

How this relates to incumbents, I think people say to themselves, Congress sucks bog water, but our guy isn't so bad, as after all, I voted for him so he has to be better than the rest as I would never vote for an idiot.
Could it be a variant of the Stockholm Syndrome?

"In psychology, Stockholm syndrome is a term used to describe a paradoxical psychological phenomenon wherein hostages express adulation and have positive feelings towards their captors that appear irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims."

Stockholm syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 06-12-2010, 10:48 PM
 
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You're right, it isn't going to be an anti-incumbent election - it's going to be an anti-liberal election.
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