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Old 01-27-2015, 08:54 AM
 
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We're the only ones who do. Why is it even important? Working hard doesn't make one rich. The hardest working people are some of the poorest in the world. The Protestant work ethic is a myth.
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:06 AM
 
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If you think the US follows the Protestant work ethic, you either do not know what the Protestant work ethic is, do not know anything about your countrymen, or both.

The Protestant work ethic is hard work, FRUGALITY and DILIGENCE.

Hard work might happen, but frugality and diligence...in the Hedonist States of America? LMAO, as if.

Hell, just delayed gratification is seen as some alien concept anymore, in this nation of people who come out of the womb feeling entitled to what everyone else has regardless of input effort. Save up for something and buy it with cash? What? Are you insane? I want it right now, and I have a credit card, so gimme gimme gimme.

Hard work determines revenue
Frugality determines cost

Put hard work with frugality, you get profit. Have either without it's symbiote, you get fail.
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:10 AM
 
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I subscribe to the The Economist magazine, so I am sure I do not know what you are talking about.
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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We're the only ones who do. Why is it even important? Working hard doesn't make one rich. The hardest working people are some of the poorest in the world. The Protestant work ethic is a myth.
What is a Protestant work ethic?
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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We don't follow the Protestant work ethic. We did at one point, but our corporate economy has changed that. Hard work, as you said, does not lead to success. Plenty of people are born into large sums of wealth accumulated by men who started companies that developed their profit from the labor of others.

Working hard is not longer the primary factor. It helps. No matter your situation, if you work harder, you're better off than had you not worked hard, but better off does not mean doing well. If you work hard and still barely make $20,000 a year, it just means you'd be making closer to $15,000 (maybe) had you worked less hard.

Nah, we don't follow the protestant work ethic anymore. We like to pretend we do, but we definitely don't. It's all about conformity and following orders and hope who ever owns you is generous with their wages.
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:13 AM
 
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We're the only ones who do. Why is it even important? Working hard doesn't make one rich. The hardest working people are some of the poorest in the world. The Protestant work ethic is a myth.
man! i really appreciate your comprehensive list of proofs that outline exactly what this "Protestant Work Ethic" is and exactly why it is a "Myth".


LOL.
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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We're the only ones who do. Why is it even important? Working hard doesn't make one rich. The hardest working people are some of the poorest in the world. The Protestant work ethic is a myth.
Yes and No.

You need to work smart AND hard. Most people need the combination of two to be successful. For example, in college, I spent most of my days and nights partying, college was survivable because I didn't like to study. I didn't work hard, that is why I didn't get straight A. I was okay with that. Even though I graduated from a great University, I cannot say I really enjoyed being there.

I've been told that I was born to draw by many of my art institute instructors. But I was not as driven as fellow "artists". I settled for "good enough". In my world, I see a lot of people like me with great talents but they are not the best in their field because they (we) rely on talents only.

People tend to think that the memorable people in our world are people born into talent. We look at their talent as if it were something we could never attain, as if it were something in their genes. In reality, the people who are most consistently successful are the ones who have become obsessive about their craft and have practiced it at a cost.
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:19 AM
 
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There's working hard and working smart.

Loading trucks at a warehouse for 40 years 40 hours a week is hard work, but will never get you rich.....unless you're an incredible investor.
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:30 AM
 
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The definition of work

1: activity in which one exerts strength or faculties to do or perform something:
a : sustained physical or mental effort to overcome obstacles and achieve an objective or result
b : the labor, task, or duty that is one's accustomed means of livelihood
c : a specific task, duty, function, or assignment often being a part or phase of some larger activity


Going by the definition provide by Merriam Webster, Stephen Hawking is working while in his chair thinking about physics.

Is there anything in the Protestant Work Ethic that says work does NOT include mental effort?
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:39 AM
 
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We don't follow the Protestant work ethic. We did at one point, but our corporate economy has changed that. Hard work, as you said, does not lead to success. Plenty of people are born into large sums of wealth accumulated by men who started companies that developed their profit from the labor of others.

Working hard is not longer the primary factor. It helps. No matter your situation, if you work harder, you're better off than had you not worked hard, but better off does not mean doing well. If you work hard and still barely make $20,000 a year, it just means you'd be making closer to $15,000 (maybe) had you worked less hard.

Nah, we don't follow the protestant work ethic anymore. We like to pretend we do, but we definitely don't. It's all about conformity and following orders and hope who ever owns you is generous with their wages.
Hard work has never promised success. If you look at our history, there were always blue collar, hard working people that didn't make huge sums of money. Some of them, through saving (part of the work ethic), managed to acquire money over time. These days people assume they're going to get big wages and are entitled to them. Those days, they assumed they needed to work hard and save.
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