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You couldnt shut BP down if you wanted to.. Do you really think stopping to buy their oil at the pumps is harming them? You'd have to live in the woods like the Unibomber in order to effect BP..
What gas stations are there, because they own Castooil, ARCO, AM/PM, Air BP, Aral stations, Amoco, Gulf etc.. You'd have to agree to never fly in a plan, ride in a car, buy groceries, etc to effect BP.. Are you willing to do that? If you reply, thereby using up the internet and electricity, I'd assume you arent willing to sacrifice your way of life to put your words where your mouth is..
you asked the question could I quit buying gas from BP. i said I could here on island, not that I would even if they were here on island. we do not on maui have any gas station that you list. I have no intention on bring BP "down" I doubt there is anyone person that could. there business may take more of a hit just by this gusher they have going in the gulf than any boycott could ever do
you asked the question could I quit buying gas from BP. i said I could here on island, not that I would even if they were here on island. we do not on maui have any gas station that you list. I have no intention on bring BP "down" I doubt there is anyone person that could. there business may take more of a hit just by this gusher they have going in the gulf than any boycott could ever do
I do see that you have a Shell, a Chevron, and various other stations there...
But Shell owns part of BP, (50% of BP Africa for example), and Chevron shares a training facility with BP and technology to manufacture resin.. While they are seperate companies, all of these oil companies are very connected.
You couldnt stop buying and giving BP your money if you wanted to, unless you stop living in society..
Waaaa.. BP should go bankrupt.. Yeah, that'll fix them..
BP WAS doing the right thing were they not? Link me to ONE source which said BP didnt agree to pay for the damages
So far they were. However, from some of the internal e-mails that have been released we know BP took short cuts and cut corners. Quite simply BP has shown little reason to trust them.
I do see that you have a Shell, a Chevron, and various other stations there...
But Shell owns part of BP, (50% of BP Africa for example), and Chevron shares a training facility with BP and technology to manufacture resin.. While they are seperate companies, all of these oil companies are very connected.
You couldnt stop buying and giving BP your money if you wanted to, unless you stop living in society..
and your point? I already said I didn't think a boycott of BP was productive. the omnipresent corps are in every aspect of society. I try not to shop at wallmart either. your point in reminding me again? we all consume what we what. I don't buy my gas from the shell or the chevron either. I use tesoro mostly which I think is independent, but even if they were owned by BP I would still use them as stated in other posts. we all protest in our own way, in this case I want BP to pay for all the damage they caused. so it is my wish they stay in business long enough to do so.
you call paying for the mess they made extortion and blackmail? I call it making right the mess of the worst oil spill in our history.
So far they were. However, from some of the internal e-mails that have been released we know BP took short cuts and cut corners. Quite simply BP has shown little reason to trust them.
So if you think BP wasnt going to do the right thing, and pay the claims, then tell me under what LEGAL authority the government used to "make BP pay"?
pgh, do you think BP should pay at all. do you want their damages capped? do you trust them to pay if you think they should. how would you make them pay?
and your point? I already said I didn't think a boycott of BP was productive. the omnipresent corps are in every aspect of society. I try not to shop at wallmart either. your point in reminding me again? we all consume what we what. I don't buy my gas from the shell or the chevron either. I use tesoro mostly which I think is independent, but even if they were owned by BP I would still use them as stated in other posts. we all protest in our own way, in this case I want BP to pay for all the damage they caused. so it is my wish they stay in business long enough to do so.
you call paying for the mess they made extortion and blackmail? I call it making right the mess of the worst oil spill in our history.
I'm sorry, I thought this was you claiming that the only way BP could stay in business was to pay the claims and clean up the mess.
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if BP wants to remain in business it will be in their best interest to pay the claims against them and clean up the mess.
Now you are telling me you oppose the boycott, which has me scratching my head trying to figure out how BP would have gone out of business..
I'm GLAD BP is doing the RIGHT thing, but they are doing so by choice
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do you want their damages capped?
Do I want their damages capped, no.. People should be responsible for the damages they cause.. But their damages ARE capped..
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do you trust them to pay if you think they should.
Yes, if they are doing whats RIGHT, even though the law says they dont HAVE to pay, then I have no reason to think they wouldnt be paying what they already are..
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how would you make them pay?
You cant MAKE them pay.. The law limits their liability.. Any judge would throw the lawsuit out..
It was the GOVERNMENTS responsibility to purchase insurance to cover the damages in the event of a disaster.. The GOVERNMENT failed.. and I dont think the GOVERNMENT should be let off the hook for their inability to abide by a contract/law they put into place...
I'm sorry, I thought this was you claiming that the only way BP could stay in business was to pay the claims and clean up the mess.
Now you are telling me you oppose the boycott, which has me scratching my head trying to figure out how BP would have gone out of business..
I said, I thought BP paying the claims and taking care of the responsibility was good for their business as in the PR it would give them. giving them an image of people who care behind the big corp that they are.
I only oppose a boycott for me as I agree with you in that I would have no effect what so ever on BP with my refusing to buy gas from them. none what so ever. someone else wants to boycott, that is on them.
I doubt BP would go out of business from any boycott, there isn't enough people to take them down willing to boycott them long enough to do so.
they just have to weather the storm. I hope they do the right thing.
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