32 Soldiers Commit Suicide in June 2010 (invasion, money, program, Army)
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The U.S. Marine Corps recorded one suicide in June and nine attempted suicides, the lowest monthly figures of the year.
The numbers are down substantially from May, when the service recorded seven suicides and 16 attempted suicides.
As a retired memeber of the Air Forces Medical Corps my duty during the begining of the first Gulf War was to record the deaths/injuries of military members in theater. What I had noticed is that Washington became good at altering numbers regarding deaths oversea in theater. An example: If an airman was shot in theater but dies in Germany from his wounds he would not be counted as a death in theater thus lowering the offical number. Even with the suicides, there were countless military members who had shot themselves intentionally in order to go home. Sometimes when they mean to shoot themselves in a non vital area they may miss and accidentally kill themselves or the wound gets infected beyond repair. No, I'm not trying to minialize the probelm but the statistics sometimes don't tell the whole story.
As a retired memeber of the Air Forces Medical Corps my duty during the begining of the first Gulf War was to record the deaths/injuries of military members in theater. What I had noticed is that Washington became good at altering numbers regarding deaths oversea in theater. An example: If an airman was shot in theater but dies in Germany from his wounds he would not be counted as a death in theater thus lowering the offical number. Even with the suicides, there were countless military members who had shot themselves intentionally in order to go home. Sometimes when they mean to shoot themselves in a non vital area they may miss and accidentally kill themselves or the wound gets infected beyond repair. No, I'm not trying to minialize the probelm but the statistics sometimes don't tell the whole story.
After a redeployment, two soldiers killed themselves during their first weekend back. There was no note of it anywhere in the local paper or Stars & Stripes.
Simetime, they've been counting deaths like that since Nam; so long as they're not on the ground in theatre, they're not counted.
Could you post an excerpt of that article where soldiers are forced to stay?
As to multiple deployments,well that is because there aren't enough troops for the job at hand,seems the military was reduced back in the 1990's.
Have you ever been in the military? It is not like a regular job where you can just quit if you don't like it. Even if a military member wants to get out it still takes time for it to go up through chain of command and during that time he/she still has to be alert and realize that eventhough they want to leave the service they still have a job to do and other peoples lives are in their hands.
As far as the reductions are concerned, yes there were some major cuts but the shortage of manpower are centered in particular fields such as infantry, ordinanace and other hazardous positions. These are the ones that offer hugh bonuses. The other point that I want to make is that when the economy is screwed up like it is many young men and women flock to the military when it is good people tend to shy away from it and even the ones in the military tend to get out and make more money.
After a redeployment, two soldiers killed themselves during their first weekend back. There was no note of it anywhere in the local paper or Stars & Stripes.
Simetime, they've been counting deaths like that since Nam; so long as they're not on the ground in theatre, they're not counted.
I never knew that until it became my job during the original Gulf War. It makes sense but it is slightly dishonest
Serving under this POTUS is not feeling like you are respected like it was under Bush!
Many signed up for the benefits and because the can't find a decent job. They know they have to stay in the army because no job is waiting for them and that makes the future even harder to deal with.
Specially if your heart is not in the army and you are only serving for the benefits!
I wonder in today's economy if the suicide rate isn't up much more than before since many people are losing their home and no jobs to look forward too...BUT on the bright side POTUS is having a weekend of fun with his family and the dog and staff went on a different plane so more gas could be waisted!
And don't start to say Bush went also away.....we know he did, but the economy wasn't what it is right now and we didn't have the oil spill like there is now.
Have you ever been in the military? It is not like a regular job where you can just quit if you don't like it. Even if a military member wants to get out it still takes time for it to go up through chain of command and during that time he/she still has to be alert and realize that eventhough they want to leave the service they still have a job to do and other peoples lives are in their hands.
Very true,so why did Chango make it sound like they were forced to go when the agreement was they would?
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As far as the reductions are concerned, yes there were some major cuts but the shortage of manpower are centered in particular fields such as infantry, ordinanace and other hazardous positions. These are the ones that offer hugh bonuses. The other point that I want to make is that when the economy is screwed up like it is many young men and women flock to the military when it is good people tend to shy away from it and even the ones in the military tend to get out and make more money.
Oddly enough,the Marines always managed to fill their quota,even when times were good.
How often do Air Force personnel deploy?
Why is their suicide rate lower?
Due to the nature of their job. Air Force personell are not "door kickers" and tend to stay further from the actual fighting except for special forces (pararescue come to mind) there may be some others but not many unlike the Marines and the Army. the Navy, except for the corpsmen who are the Marine medics are normally not in the line of fire on land either.
Oh, Air Force folks are not deployed as often depending on their job (loadmasters and other Aircraft maintance folks and some medical)
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