Flag??? (Jesus, support, California, constitution)

[nat_at772]

Originally Posted by Ceece

Like anyone has a choice? Get real. It's totally meaningless.

It was just a question. No need for you to get so snippy. Besides you do have a choice. Don't pay with cash.

Originally Posted by NYChistorygal

Doesn't reflect my personal belief. It states what the gov't trusts, not what I trust.

Ahhh that makes sense. I guess I was looking at the "we" on it as the same as the "I" in the pledge.

Originally Posted by JBM

Let's get rid of that class time devoted to the pledge and start class 2 minutes earlier, or make a tutoring time in the morning for kids to get help.

How much tutoring could be done in the 2 minutes it take to say it?

[JBM]

Originally Posted by natalayjones

How much tutoring could be done in the 2 minutes it take to say it?

I do know hey sure could use that time to get the kids sat down and books opened. Just adds another distraction

[QuixoticHobbit]

Originally Posted by PCincorrect

Yes, other children who do not care to take part in this pledge are allowed to sit in the hall while the rest of the class Pledges allegience.

So much for the "one nation, indivisible" part eh?

[QuixoticHobbit]

Originally Posted by bnepler

Just remember not to call "Him" for help when your in a really bad situation. Call "mommy" instead!

Excellent advice. Calling "mommy" for help has a far better chance of getting results.

[QuixoticHobbit]

Originally Posted by Greatday

I recite the Pledge, as amended, with great pride and knowing that although I don't have to recite it, this GREAT country has had men and women fight and die to give me the freedoms to decide to say the pledge or not.

I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. And, to the Republic for which it Stands, One Nation, Under God, Indivisible with Liberty and Justice for all.

God Bless America.

If the pledge was "amended" (i.e. hijacked) with "Under Allah" or "Under Buddha" I bet you'd be singing a different tune.

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by QuixoticHobbit

If the pledge was "amended" (i.e. hijacked) with "Under Allah" or "Under Buddha" I bet you'd be singing a different tune.

But until or unless that happens, your suggestion is moot.

[domergurl]

Originally Posted by Greatday

I recite the Pledge, as amended, with great pride and knowing that although I don't have to recite it, this GREAT country has had men and women fight and die to give me the freedoms to decide to say the pledge or not.

I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. And, to the Republic for which it Stands, One Nation, Under God, Indivisible with Liberty and Justice for all.

God Bless America.

Under who's god? I'm sure there have been many an atheist and agnostic who have fought for our country.

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by domergurl

Under who's god? I'm sure there have been many an atheist and agnostic who have fought for our country.

You might be surprised - there is a saying that there are no atheists or agnostics in a fox hole. In a fire fight - even the most fervent NON-believers find religion. Its amazing.

[QuixoticHobbit]

Originally Posted by Greatday

But until or unless that happens, your suggestion is moot.

it isn't moot because it HAS already happened - just with the Christian God instead of Allah. Obviously the irony of my point went over your pointed little head.

[bnepler]

Originally Posted by domergurl

Under who's god? I'm sure there have been many an atheist and agnostic who have fought for our country.

what a sad horrible life some people live........ with so much hate for this country..