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Old 08-05-2010, 08:57 AM
 
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I do have to say thanks for finally being clear, and apologize for being obtuse; I had thought the vendors and the US companies were physically located in Sri Lanka. But come to find out, they may not be located anywhere at all.
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Old 08-05-2010, 08:58 AM
 
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This is the Embassy's press release on it:

August 2, 2010: US Government Support Creates 10,000 jobs in Northern Sri Lanka

The paragraph the article drew from is,
"To help fill workforce gaps in BPO and IT, USAID is teaming with leading BPO and IT/English language training companies to establish professional IT and English skills development training centers in each of the five districts in the Northern Province.. Courses in Business Process Outsourcing, Enterprise Java, and English Language Skills will be offered at no charge to over 3,000 under- and unemployed students who will then participate in on-the-job training schemes with private firms."
Correct. The Sri Lankan outsourcing vendors contract with American (and other countries') companies to provide offshore services.
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Presently there are about 75 software development companies in operation in Sri Lanka where estimated exports of software and related services of Sri Lanka in year 2003 was US $ 70 million. Currently Sri Lanka acts as an off-shore development center for USA, Ireland, UK, Australia, etc and joint venture development center for Sweden, Norway, USA, Japan etc.
Outsourcing destination Sri Lanka

Explain to me why U.S. taxpayer money is going to help an already $70+ million American job-killing industry in another country.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:23 AM
 
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Correct. The Sri Lankan outsourcing vendors contract with American (and other countries') companies to provide offshore services.

Outsourcing destination Sri Lanka

Explain to me why U.S. taxpayer money is going to help an already $70+ million American job-killing industry in another country.
I was reading more on this at the Dept of State's and the US Embassy's website. We support many countries, and Sri Lanka was devastated by a civil war, but -- I hate to admit it but I think you've got me here.

They also help train for sweat shops

Okay, you're right. I admit. HOWEVER! It doesnt matter that the USAID director was "hand-picked" (=appointed) by Obama, or that he worked for the Gates Foundation.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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This is not global social justice.
This is corporate greed on a global scale: see globalization. They are on the hunt for the next cheap source of labor.

Global social justice would be paying workers worldwide a living wage, among other things.
You need to understand "why" ... it's based upon the fact that Unions have driven the cost of employees so high it jepordizes making a profit. It's taken a long time, but the Unions have finally reached the point where they have just about destroyed our country. For many years the unionized companies just raised the prices of the products/services to pay for the annual boost of cost for Union employees. They finally reached the point of no return and Unions have been shrinking out in the private section for several years.

Just look at the Unionized "public sector." It is the Union benefits negotiated up, up, up and up that are the basic cause of our States being on the verge of bankruptcy.

One has to take care of the bottom-line of the cause of the exodus of jobs instead of blaming business for staying in business by avoiding falling in the dark pit the Unions have dug.
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Old 08-06-2010, 07:57 AM
 
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A "living wage" is impossible in a socialist worker's paradise.
The embedded overhead invariably skews the trade of one's labor, so that the worker has to trade far more hours of labor to hire the same equivalent labor.

It's not the money volume, but what one can trade with that money.

The "Cheap foreign labor" is not the cause of America's economic woes. For if a "poor" foreign worker is hired at $1 / day, it means he can hire local labor for $1 / day.

In the American workplace, it's not unusual for an employee's labor to be sold at 4x to 8x base pay. Which means his net wage (depleted by taxation) can only purchase 1/4 to 1/8 of the equivalent output.

[head smack]

Equitable trade of one's labor requires a vast decrease in the burdens passed to one's customer. And that means a massive reduction in the taxation and expenditures of government, in interest payments, in insurance premiums, in pensions, and every other hidden cost. We may never reach 1:1 parity, but working in a "socialist paradise" of inequity is not sustainable, nor just.

The politically incorrect solution is the total elimination of socialism, usury, taxpayer funded pensions, and any hidden fee that migrates to the retail price and imbalances equitable trade.

There is no other viable solution.
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Old 08-06-2010, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Say..Info Week found another gem.

USAID is now going to train IT workers in Armenia as well. But USAID declined to say how much or how many.

Now It's Armenia: USAID Funds IT In Eurasia -- InformationWeek

"Among other things, Armenia is looking to establish itself as a center for low-cost IT and engineering work outsourced from the U.S. and other Western countries.
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USAID officials did not respond to requests for comment. "
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Old 08-07-2010, 12:59 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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You need to understand "why" ... it's based upon the fact that Unions have driven the cost of employees so high it jepordizes making a profit. It's taken a long time, but the Unions have finally reached the point where they have just about destroyed our country. For many years the unionized companies just raised the prices of the products/services to pay for the annual boost of cost for Union employees. They finally reached the point of no return and Unions have been shrinking out in the private section for several years.

Just look at the Unionized "public sector." It is the Union benefits negotiated up, up, up and up that are the basic cause of our States being on the verge of bankruptcy.

One has to take care of the bottom-line of the cause of the exodus of jobs instead of blaming business for staying in business by avoiding falling in the dark pit the Unions have dug.
Utter bunk. Unions are being busted right and left and the fat cats are making more money than ever. Worker salaries as a percent of the bottom line is not significant until you factor in The Executive Branch. 35K/yr is not an outrageous salary. It definitely isn't when the CEO of your company makes 35Million/yr. Some people won't be happy until there is a national maximum wage of $10/yr... for ALL work. We are getting there. Try paying $2,000/mo. NYC rent on $10/hr. All that money you are spending on your kids education? Better pull them out of school and invest the scratch pronto. There will not be any unions when they hit the job market and college degrees will earn $10/hr if they work at all. Be careful what you wish for.

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Old 08-07-2010, 04:55 AM
 
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O noes. And what is he doing that's different from past USAID directors?

I never heard of US tax dollars going to train foreign workers to take American jobs. Have you?
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