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I've always though the fair tax was the right way to go. Unfortunately the odds of it passing in Washington are zero to none.
I don't think you went low enough with your odds. Something in the minus category would be closer. The problem in Washington can be seen very easily by looking at Rasmussen reports and seeing what their numbers are for we, the poeple, and the same numbers for what they call the political class.
You are very right that it won't happen there because it makes their wild spending much more difficult. I mean politicians when I say their, both parties.
Why is this question hard to answer, I mean seriously? Its easy to say the Health Care bill add's to the deficit, the bailouts add's to the deficit. But Why is this question hard to answer?
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of income and wealth in the US.
The money earned by the citizens is thier property, not that of the federal government. The government does not own the income or labor of the citizens. Taxes are GIVEN to the government by the people's consent, not the other way around. Further, the purpose of the government was to establish an environment in which one's personal rights and freedom was protected such that one could purse and explore thier own personal fortune or lack therof. The modern socialist system has changed the "mission" of our government from the task of securing liberty to stealing income from one citizen to give to another by legislative fiat. Nothing could be more insane.
Revenues have continued to rise for the last 50 years. The problem is not revenue, it is wild spending.
Starve the government and dramatically cut taxes. The citizens know how to spend thier own money better than the federal government.
You don't "pay" for a tax cut. You look to see revenue. Post-9/11 fallout we see that the revenue was the same or more then previous years despite the fairly lower tax rates. So in that case they did not harm the federal governments income. This is the major impasse that the liberals skip when comparing.
Now, should we get to the crux of the problem and compare spending vs. income which leads to deficit?
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of income and wealth in the US.
The money earned by the citizens is thier property, not that of the federal government. The government does not own the income or labor of the citizens. Taxes are GIVEN to the government by the people's consent, not the other way around. Further, the purpose of the government was to establish an environment in which one's personal rights and freedom was protected such that one could purse and explore thier own personal fortune or lack therof. The modern socialist system has changed the "mission" of our government from the task of securing liberty to stealing income from one citizen to give to another by legislative fiat. Nothing could be more insane.
Revenues have continued to rise for the last 50 years. The problem is not revenue, it is wild spending.
Starve the government and dramatically cut taxes. The citizens know how to spend thier own money better than the federal government.
Nice way of trying to spin this around to the "you don't know what your talking about" rhetoric. Now explain why Boehner was asked the question 5 times and continued to tap dance and deflect.
Why is this question hard to answer, I mean seriously? Its easy to say the Health Care bill add's to the deficit, the bailouts add's to the deficit. But Why is this question hard to answer?
Why is the question hard to answer? I say it is because politicians want to be re-elected and they can't admit that they have to cut spending, when and if, they cut taxes.
Actually I don't think any politicians of either party wants to admit that he knows the real answer since they all want to use spending and taxes to get their re-election.
I have come to many of my conclusions about this question in reading the hated by the left Rasmussen report about what they call the political class and how they see things compared to how the rest of us see things. What a huge disparity there is in comparing those numbers.
Nice way of trying to spin this around to the "you don't know what your talking about" rhetoric. Now explain why Boehner was asked the question 5 times and continued to tap dance and deflect.
I can explain the answer but not in a way you would accept. I stopped watching that show when Russert passed away because all they could come up with as hosts were very biased hosts and Gregory is one of the worst. I think his question was answered in one of those attempts but he had to hear Boehner admit that if you don't cut expenses when you cut taxes you are going to have a deficit. In fact, he did tell him that, maybe not in words that were accepable by Gregory but they worked for me.
I can explain the answer but not in a way you would accept. I stopped watching that show when Russert passed away because all they could come up with as hosts were very biased hosts and Gregory is one of the worst. I think his question was answered in one of those attempts but he had to hear Boehner admit that if you don't cut expenses when you cut taxes you are going to have a deficit. In fact, he did tell him that, maybe not in words that were accepable by Gregory but they worked for me.
Look, its a yes or no answer. Boehner as well as other politicans continue to tap dance around being honest. Again, they can say providing Healthcare to millions is not paid for, why is it So darn hard to say NO the Bush tax cuts are not paid for and will not be paid for until xyz. How hard is that?
Nice way of trying to spin this around to the "you don't know what your talking about" rhetoric. Now explain why Boehner was asked the question 5 times and continued to tap dance and deflect.
Well, you said, I did not.
However, if you really think that everyone's income is in the first instance the property of the government, and they have the discretion to "allow" the citizens to keep some of THIER MONEY, then we have a big problem regarding your concept of personal freedom and liberty.
If, on the other hand, you are an avowed communist, then such thoughts would be perfectly consistent with your core values.
However, if you really think that everyone's income is in the first instance the property of the government, and they have the discretion to "allow" the citizens to keep some of THIER MONEY, then we have a big problem regarding your concept of personal freedom and liberty.
If, on the other hand, you are an avowed communist, then such thoughts would be perfectly consistent with your core values.
wtf are you babbling about. You are the ONLY poster in this thread that has not remotely responded to the OP, which is WHY did it take asking the question 5 times of Boehner? Apparently its Boehner who doesn't have a clue what he's talking about considering he resorted to the two step side step dance.
What you say is so right but politicians can't take a chance that the voters will awaken to the fact that spending has to abate in order to pay off deficits. They think they are buying votes with all their fallacies so they won't ever wise up. Maybe we can get enough new ones this fall to help that out but we have to remain vigilant then so when the new ones become old ones they can be removed, and so on.
It's just part of the institutionalized lies that in this country's political discussion that keeps us from seeing things clearly.
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