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Old 08-25-2010, 11:27 AM
 
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What a convenient story! If it's true then it's a shame, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was a ruse set up by a mosque sympathizer. As someone already pointed out, it's very difficult to stab a cab driver in NYC with the glass window separating the driver from the passenger.
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Old 08-25-2010, 11:30 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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If this case is authentic, the perpetrator might be the parent of a soldier, who died in Iraq or Afghanistan.
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Old 08-25-2010, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Earth
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So a deranged man stabs a guy. And he's not just a crazy person. Oh no. He can't possibly be a nut with no connections to other Americans. He's a "product" of some sort. The clear implication is that he's a product of our racist, horrible society that promotes hatred against Muslims.

Islamophobia is nothing more than a word intended to silence reasonable criticism (and well deserved!) of Islam. I'm sick of it.
Are you saying it doesn't exist?
The attacker asked him if he was muslim before he attacked him.

Would he attack the driver had he not been muslim?
If so, then why did he ask?
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Old 08-25-2010, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Dorchester
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All you've got to do is read this board...you'll find all sorts of examples of an irrational fear of Muslims. Most of it fermented and firmly rooted in the worship of Faux News.
I guess you should know as you are one of the angriest posters on this board. In fact very few people start as many threads as you do.

Unhinged is a word that immediately comes to mind.
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Old 08-25-2010, 11:34 AM
 
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If this case is authentic, the perpetrator might be the parent of a soldier, who died in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Is this your excuse for the attack?
Perhaps the driver had family in the middle east that was killed or raped by an american soldier.

What's your point?
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Old 08-25-2010, 11:35 AM
 
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The attacker asked him if he was muslim before he attacked him.
Do you have proof of this assertion, SOLID proof that this man asked the driver. No all you have is hearsay! All you have is the allegation.

Now if it true, then this bastard needs prosecuted to the full extent, no ifs and or buts. But until it's proven all you have is hearsay!
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Old 08-25-2010, 11:38 AM
 
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Are you saying it doesn't exist?
The attacker asked him if he was muslim before he attacked him.

Would he attack the driver had he not been muslim?
If so, then why did he ask?
The guy's crazy. Someone who stabs someone else is inherently either evil or crazy.

How is that a reflection of anything but the fact that he's crazy and just a bad person? Was the Fort Hood lunatic a reflection of anything but the fact that he was crazy? And if the broader point is that the Fort Hood attacker was in fact reacting to an allegedly deeply racist American society well then shouldn't Muslims equally look inside their hearts and wonder if their own highly bigoted societies aren't equally somehow to blame for his actions?

As for term Islamophobia well are you arguing that people have no right to dislike an ideology? Because that's what Islam ultimately is: an ideology. I can't say I like it all that much.
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Old 08-25-2010, 11:39 AM
 
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Don't mind certain people, they are unable to accept opinions rather they want facts to twist and distort!


I tried to rep you but was unable to, so here is your rep about double standards!
I'll rep you for wanting to rep Eleanora. Good posts!!
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Old 08-25-2010, 11:39 AM
 
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My point is simple.

The Islamic community and their knee jerk apologists argue the following:

No Muslim can ever be held accountable for the actions of other Muslims.

All non-Muslims, however, can be held accountable for the actions of other non-Muslims particularly when it comes to actions that the Islamic community dislikes.
No person can be held accountable for the actions of other persons.

That's not a Muslim argument. That's a fundamental principle of the American justice system. The only exceptions are in the case of guardians who have assumed responsibility for the actions of their charges. What you are arguing is that because they are Muslim, this fundamental principle should not apply to them.

And I'd like to see where Muslims argue that all non-Muslims should be held accountable for the actions of other non-Muslims. Could you find something to support your assertion?
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Old 08-25-2010, 11:40 AM
 
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The guy's crazy. Someone who stabs someone else is inherently either evil or crazy.

How is that a reflection of anything but the fact that he's crazy and just a bad person? Was the Fort Hood lunatic a reflection of anything but the fact that he was crazy? And if the broader point is that the Fort Hood attacker was in fact reacting to an allegedly deeply racist American society well then shouldn't Muslims equally look inside their hearts and wonder if their own highly bigoted societies aren't equally somehow to blame for his actions?

As for term Islamophobia well are you arguing that people have no right to dislike an ideology? Because that's what Islam ultimately is: an ideology. I can't say I like it all that much.
That's what Eric Holder was getting at - the guy was just stressed out! Whatever!
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