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Old 09-08-2010, 09:14 AM
 
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH DOES NOT COME WITH RESPONSIBILITIES TO NOT OFFEND.

STOP IT! NOW!

Grown ups have to deal with being offended, on a daily basis.

This is just proof of the libby PC garbage, removing words like retarded.

you don't believe in freedom of speech, you believe in censorship.

Sorry, but burning a book is a right we Americans have. If you don't like it, then leave. Trying to equate burning a book to violence in response to burning a book, is PATHETIC.

So now right and wrong is the correct standard we should use?

In that case, you must be in favor or banning adultery then, right because it's got to be "wrong" as it hurts families.

Oh wait, i'm sure that was just another case of a double standard you libs have. Can't offend your darlings, they might get violent, and it would be our fault.
Okay, you've defended book burning as a form of free speech and political activism.

But you haven't explained yet what the message is that's being sent with burning Q'urans. You haven't explained yet who the audience is. You haven't explained what the book burners hope to achieve.

Care to tackle those questions?
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Old 09-08-2010, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Do you think a rational person would murder people over the burning of a book of fairy tales?
People have murdered for less.
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Old 09-08-2010, 09:18 AM
 
Location: AL
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Why cant the Qur'an be burn?
So I am suppose to believe that if the Qur'an is burned...then Muslims will kill Americans and American soldiers?................Ummmm news flash.....those Muslims are killing Americans!!!!!!

So burn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-08-2010, 09:19 AM
 
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Why cant the Qur'an be burn?
So I am suppose to believe that if the Qur'an is burned...then Muslims will kill Americans and American soldiers?................Ummmm news flash.....those Muslims are killing Americans!!!!!!

So burn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What does burning Q'urans achieve? What's the goal? What's the desired effect? What are the chances of achieving the desired effect? What possible other effects could result?
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Old 09-08-2010, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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Why cant the Qur'an be burn?
So I am suppose to believe that if the Qur'an is burned...then Muslims will kill Americans and American soldiers?................Ummmm news flash.....those Muslims are killing Americans!!!!!!

So burn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DC at the Ridge said it perfectly, so I'm going to requote him:

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Okay, you've defended book burning as a form of free speech and political activism.

But you haven't explained yet what the message is that's being sent with burning Q'urans. You haven't explained yet who the audience is. You haven't explained what the book burners hope to achieve.

Care to tackle those questions?
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Old 09-08-2010, 09:21 AM
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Location: Wisconsin
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Why poke the bear? What really gets accomplished? There is no guarantee that you will get stung by the bees who's nest you mess with... but the odds go up substantially. That is all I need to know. Feel free to test that beehive theory out, it is your right. But please try to limit others from getting stung, as they can reason cause and effect without testing it....
Good point. And, I would note, that this idiot is doing this hateful action from the safety of Florida. The troops whose life he is endangering (including my s-i-l) are the ones who will pay the price for his behavior.
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Old 09-08-2010, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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People have murdered for less.
So you're telling me that someone could be non militant and sane and kill over a book being burnt? That's it's possible to "convert" someone to militancy simply over a book being burned?
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Old 09-08-2010, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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What does burning Q'urans achieve? What's the goal? What's the desired effect? What are the chances of achieving the desired effect? What possible other effects could result?
You realize your liberal logic of "don't poke the bear" will only encourage other groups to become violent because they see you as capitulating to groups that are violent, whereas you don't to groups that are non violent. YOu will only encourage more terrorism from different groups because then you ask people to be understanding or don't provoke groups who respond violently when they have grievances.

Do you really want this to happen?

Imagine if abortion clinics got bombed on a daily basis instead of once every 15 years? You'd then might even say "we need to understand why the bombers are doing it"....
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Old 09-08-2010, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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Good point. And, I would note, that this idiot is doing this hateful action from the safety of Florida. The troops whose life he is endangering (including my s-i-l) are the ones who will pay the price for his behavior.
Do you get violent and want to kill Afghani americans when afghanist burn the US flag? Why don't you perhaps hold people responsible for their own actions, and expect people not want to kill ove ra stupid book being burnt, okay?

Or do you think that the taliban loved Americans prior to this scenario of the koran burnings?
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Old 09-08-2010, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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So you're telling me that someone could be non militant and sane and kill over a book being burnt? That's it's possible to "convert" someone to militancy simply over a book being burned?
No, I am saying people have murdered for less.
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