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Old 09-30-2010, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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My question is why did the fact that the guy was gay even come up in the transaction in the first place? If a 40 year old man is putting in a special order for a birthday cake, when would he find the need to tell the baker that the cake is to celebrate the birthday of his 15 year girl friend?
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Old 09-30-2010, 09:47 AM
 
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why did the fact that the guy was gay even come up in the transaction in the first place?
Exactly. It seems there may be lots of missing information, but apparently the order was for National Coming Out Day.

Also noteworthy - the name of the bakery is "Just Cookies" Just Cookies
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Old 09-30-2010, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Here
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It was a cookie only specialty place. Nothing else i.e. cupcakes. Maybe they should have asked for cookies instead of demanding something the establishment doesn’t already provide.
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Old 09-30-2010, 11:43 AM
 
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It was a cookie only specialty place. Nothing else i.e. cupcakes. Maybe they should have asked for cookies instead of demanding something the establishment doesn’t already provide.
That does make sense, I guess.

I do hate it, though, when I go into my local bakery and ask for a broiled lobster tail, and they tell me to beat it. Our local news station refuses, however, to let me cry on television, so I have no real recourse. I guess I could sue the bakery, the news station, and perhaps a lobster.
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Old 09-30-2010, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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That does make sense, I guess.

I do hate it, though, when I go into my local bakery and ask for a broiled lobster tail, and they tell me to beat it. Our local news station refuses, however, to let me cry on television, so I have no real recourse. I guess I could sue the bakery, the news station, and perhaps a lobster.
Lobsters have deep pockets. Always go after the lobster.
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:29 PM
 
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Customers are intimidating? Do you even know the meaning of that word extortion? Harrassment isn't happening to paying customers?

No, it's not intimidation or extortion. I simply want a cupcake. Isn't that what bakeries do? If it hurts their feelings that I show up to their store asking for it, and they find themselves embarrassed by their own policy that they've published for the world to see, perhaps that's their own problem???

No one is obliged to tolerate abuse. Nobody has the right to abuse another. Being a customer isn't abuse. It's business, not personal opinions pushed upon people. Somewhere down main street another bakery will open up selling rainbow cupcakes because a demand has just been created, and less will have a need to go to a bakery that has political issues with food dye.

It's a good thing our military & gov't isn't run in a way that gives them the right to pick and chose which states deserve defense and which states don't. It's a good thing I served all of you equally, regardless of my personal ideology, and regardless of the select few of you with utter hatred of women. I served you anyway as my duty no matter what an ingrate you were. NEXT!
Guess what - I have a DD-214, too. And they didn't ask me as a kid if I wanted my dad to do two tours in Vietnam, either.

Intentionally wanting to flood a store with activists to order a certain "cupcake" to teach a lesson is harrassment. But now with your new definition of abuse as being told "no", it tells me your utter lack of comprehension and life skills. NEXT!

Cripes, I've been associated, worked, and lived amongst gays long before it became the in thing to have a token gay friend so you can display them in your trophy case of "tolerance"!
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:35 PM
 
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Suppose a person goes into a bakery owned by a gay man and orders a cake with slurs on it offensive to him. Does he have the right to refuse?
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:36 PM
 
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Fox59 went to City Market to get the business's side of the story, Just Cookies, but we didn't get just one version of what happened.

"Look around, we don't have cupcakes," said owner Lilly Stockton.

Stockton said she talked to someone who did ask for rainbow cookies but couldn't accommodate the order.

Stockton: "I don't have enough colors to do that."

Reporter: "Not enough colors, not because you didn't like what they stood for?"

Stockton: "She didn't tell me what it was for."

Then we talked to her husband David, who gradually made it clear that there was an earlier order... and yes, the customer was refused.

"I explained we're a family-run business, we have two young, impressionable daughters and we thought maybe it was best not to do that," said co-owner David Stockton.
Homophobic Bakery: Local bakery refuses to make rainbow cupcakes for gay customer - fox59.com


And, they actually do make "some" cupcakes.
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:42 PM
 
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"I explained we're a family-run business, we have two young, impressionable daughters and we thought maybe it was best not to do that," said co-owner David Stockton.
This line, regardless of what the bakers said it was really about (cupcakes at a cookie place, not enough colors) leads me to believe their "reasons" were just cover-up for homophobia. After all, if it was really just about making an inappropriate order (cupcakes) or limited resources (colors), why would the fact they have impressionable daughters matter at all? Not to mention, even if that is the case, are the daughters making the cupcakes or watching the parents make them? It seems pretty clear to me there is some element of irrational thinking on the part of the bakers.
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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That does make sense, I guess.

I do hate it, though, when I go into my local bakery and ask for a broiled lobster tail, and they tell me to beat it. Our local news station refuses, however, to let me cry on television, so I have no real recourse. I guess I could sue the bakery, the news station, and perhaps a lobster.
LOL this one had me cracking up at work. I'm sure my coworkers suspect I'm not really editing documents over here.
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