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Old 10-11-2010, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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yes, Democrat Party does care MUCH MORE about the poor, working and unemployed than Republican Party, it is also far more concerned about the deficit than Republican Party.
LOL. Yeah, they care about making sure there's lots of poor people because their voter base. In fact, they love the poor so much they are making more of them out of the middle class at a feverish pace.
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Old 10-11-2010, 10:04 AM
 
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LOL oh puhlease, the tax cuts were a mere pittance for the poor and middle class (like throwing a dog a bone), the real hefty meat of the bone of Bush tax cuts was for wealthy & corporations. Fascism is what is happening with CORPORATIST TAKEOVER OF OUR GOVERNMENT (corps are taking it away from WE THE PEOPLE)
FAIL

The "poor" don't pay income tax. In fact, they were sent checks from the government courtesy of the actual taxpayer-producers. They didn't get a "cut" they received a handout of unearned INCOME.

The top 25% pays most of the income taxes in this country (over 86%) and not the so-called "middle-class". Period. But hey, that's all going to change with Obamanomics, the firmly middle and upper-middle classes will be punished indeed.
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Old 10-11-2010, 10:12 AM
 
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its the liberals who CONSTANTLY have been destroying the middleclass


liberals have some real nice ideas....but always a lousy plan for it
The middle class expanded under President Bill Clinton it declined under President George BushJr. Could you explain the basis of your logic?
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Old 10-11-2010, 10:16 AM
 
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"Face it... The Republican Party doesn't care about you... "

Translation: The Republican Party won't take all of your money with promises of taking care of you from cradle to grave. Of course, those promises are never fulfilled and the degree of 'care' is determined by statist bureaucrats who do not have your best interest at heart.
No, the Republican Party will let financial institutions and corporations **** you out of your money with lax regulations, and by allowing policies that are predatory in the consumer, unsafe for workers, and harmful to the environment.
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Old 10-11-2010, 10:21 AM
 
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FAIL

The "poor" don't pay income tax. In fact, they were sent checks from the government courtesy of the actual taxpayer-producers. They didn't get a "cut" they received a handout of unearned INCOME.

The top 25% pays most of the income taxes in this country (over 86%) and not the so-called "middle-class". Period. But hey, that's all going to change with Obamanomics, the firmly middle and upper-middle classes will be punished indeed.
True, the truly poor do not pay income tax. Please clarify> You consider over $250,000 for couple (and over $200,000 for single) to be "middle and upper-middle" Then you consider any one person making under $200,000 to be "poor"?
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Old 10-11-2010, 10:27 AM
 
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True, the truly poor do not pay income tax. Please clarify> You consider over $250,000 for couple (and over $200,000 for single) to be "middle and upper-middle" Then you consider any one person making under $200,000 to be "poor"?
Wealth is not measured by income. To prove this look at estate taxation. That taxes cumulative wealth, not income.

Yes, IMO, anyone earning under $1M/yr and with a cumulative wealth under $20M is part of the "middle class". The truly wealthy have hundreds of Millions and Billions of dollars. The Democrats really set the bar low to deter financial success in the Obamanomics of "trickle up" poverty. The "poor" are those living at and under the poverty level, period.

Democrats consistently ignore that many small business owners and family farmers do not incorporate and file business profits on their personal income tax. It really doesn't take much to go over that $200K thresh hold as a small business owner with less than 10 employees. Doing that does not make them "rich".
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Old 10-11-2010, 10:33 AM
 
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Wealth is not measured by income. To prove this look at estate taxation. That taxes cumulative wealth, not income.

Yes, IMO, anyone earning under $1M/yr and with a cumulative wealth under $20M is part of the "middle class". The truly wealthy have hundreds of Millions and Billions of dollars. The Democrats really set the bar low to deter financial success in the Obamanomics of "trickle up" poverty. The "poor" are those living at and under the poverty level, period.
oookaaay. So how about, capital gains is that not income to you?
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Old 10-11-2010, 10:47 AM
 
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Wealth is not measured by income. To prove this look at estate taxation. That taxes cumulative wealth, not income.

Yes, IMO, anyone earning under $1M/yr and with a cumulative wealth under $20M is part of the "middle class". The truly wealthy have hundreds of Millions and Billions of dollars. The Democrats really set the bar low to deter financial success in the Obamanomics of "trickle up" poverty. The "poor" are those living at and under the poverty level, period.

Democrats consistently ignore that many small business owners and family farmers do not incorporate and file business profits on their personal income tax. It really doesn't take much to go over that $200K thresh hold as a small business owner with less than 10 employees. Doing that does not make them "rich".
it is based on NET
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Old 10-11-2010, 10:50 AM
 
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oookaaay. So how about, capital gains is that not income to you?
Capital gains is income to everyone and everyone gets taxed on it already. No one stops anyone from investing and letting their money work for them while they are simultaneously working for their money. This money is invested, allowing municipalities and business alike the cash flow to expand and improve. Do you believe people should be punished for investing in the USA? Really?

Really grasping for straws. You need to educate yourself MUCH better instead of spewing liberal hate speech. Seriously.
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Old 10-11-2010, 10:50 AM
 
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The REPUBLICANS are against Unions which help the middle class and always have.

The REPUBLICANS want to lower wages....HOW does THAT help the middle class?



Who's in the military getting killed? The middle class.



The REPUBLICANS want to eliminate Social Security....WHO is against the middle class?


The REPUBLICANS are against any finance industry regulations....did that help the middle class?


The REPUBLICANS are against legal abortion....that doesn't hurt the upper class....just the lower and middle class.
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