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Old 10-11-2010, 03:38 PM
 
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I look at reputation vs. post count to determine who is a light weight. I know, seems weird, but if you see someone with 20,000 posts and 100 rep, it's like... a whole lot of people think you are either wrong, really wrong, or totally nuts. They don't identify with you.

Reading the article now..... lets see what it says.. be back soon.

Edit.

Two paragraphs before the one you linked.

"Most of Obama's private (and sometimes public) rebuttals to the voices slamming him on all sides are justified or spot on. He did inherit a lot of problems from the Bush Administration. He did act quickly in the initial weeks of his Administration to stave off a worldwide depression. His efforts at job creation have been obstructed by Republicans (even the proposals based on policies supported by the GOP in the past). His opponents haven't put forth specifics of their own, nor offered genuine compromise, while the media have allowed the right's activists and gabbers to run wild with criticism without furnishing legitimate alternative solutions"
I was going to quote that part too, but you beat me too it. To the OP--really nice move to cherry pick articles to find a few lines that justify your point of view, and then ignore the rest of the piece that blows it apart....
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Old 10-11-2010, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Originally Posted by 70Ford View Post
I look at reputation vs. post count to determine who is a light weight. I know, seems weird, but if you see someone with 20,000 posts and 100 rep, it's like... a whole lot of people think you are either wrong, really wrong, or totally nuts. They don't identify with you.

Reading the article now..... lets see what it says.. be back soon.

Edit.

Two paragraphs before the one you linked.

Most of Obama's private (and sometimes public) rebuttals to the voices slamming him on all sides are justified or spot on. He did inherit a lot of problems from the Bush Administration. He did act quickly in the initial weeks of his Administration to stave off a worldwide depression. His efforts at job creation have been obstructed by Republicans (even the proposals based on policies supported by the GOP in the past). His opponents haven't put forth specifics of their own, nor offered genuine compromise, while the media have allowed the right's activists and gabbers to run wild with criticism without furnishing legitimate alternative solutions

LOL, I use the actual intellectual heft of a posters arguments to determine their intellectual fire power. But hey if you want to use an arbitrary popularity meter as your guidepost for gravitas that is your perogative.

We wait for your insightful analysis with baited breath.
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Old 10-11-2010, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Everyone agrees that everyone does not agree with everyone.
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Old 10-11-2010, 03:39 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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You only need 41 for a fillibuster.

Now, answer the question. Are you telling me that this is something that they haven't been doing?
And would that 41st person be a Republican or Dem?
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Old 10-11-2010, 03:44 PM
 
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Answer the question. Are you telling me that this is something that they haven't been doing?
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Old 10-11-2010, 03:45 PM
 
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The dems have a filibuster proof majority, the Republicans can only block things if Dems join them.
Um...no...you're wrong. It takes 60 votes to end a filabuster. The Dems have 57 members in the Senate. That's why the R's have done so much yelling and screaming at their more moderate R's like Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins who have occasionally voted with the Dem's...
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Old 10-11-2010, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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I was going to quote that part too, but you beat me too it. To the OP--really nice move to cherry pick articles to find a few lines that justify your point of view, and then ignore the rest of the piece that blows it apart....
I believe it was you who cherry picked one supportive line. If you think that was a glowing review of Obama, he is in worse trouble than I could have imagined.

TOS prevent me from posting to much of the piece but here is another gem.

[LEFT]"With the exception of core Obama Administration loyalists, most politically engaged elites have reached the same conclusions: the White House is in over its head, isolated, insular, arrogant and clueless about how to get along with or persuade members of Congress, the media, the business community or working-class voters. This view is held by Fox News pundits, executives and anchors at the major old-media outlets, reporters who cover the White House, Democratic and Republican congressional leaders and governors, many Democratic business people and lawyers who raised big money for Obama in 2008, and even some members of the Administration just beyond the inner circle."

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/politics/ar...#ixzz125awyxJM
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Old 10-11-2010, 03:49 PM
 
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No, not really. And the voters agree with me as you shall soon see. The crowd that you seem to belong to is the Obamaobot crowd thinking this inexperienced, unqualified, and ill-educated man-child is actually capable of an intelligent thought without it being written out for him to read.
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Old 10-11-2010, 03:49 PM
 
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You only need 41 for a fillibuster.

Now, answer the question. Are you telling me that this is something that they haven't been doing?
It takes 41 votes to hold a filibuster, but 60 to vote for cloture to end it.

Filibuster and Cloture - Rules of the Senate: Filibuster & Cloture
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Old 10-11-2010, 03:50 PM
 
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Um...no...you're wrong. It takes 60 votes to end a filabuster. The Dems have 57 members in the Senate. That's why the R's have done so much yelling and screaming at their more moderate R's like Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins who have occasionally voted with the Dem's...


It takes 41 to start a filabuster.

I'm still not getting my answer.
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