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I absolutely think science and religion can coexist. My belief--God orchestrates the universe and establishes it's rules--that in itself is a miracle. Under that line of thought, the big bang can be set in place, evolution can be set in place--all are miracles--and just because we can understand something through the laws of science makes it no less of a miracle. Maybe the laws of science are the miracle?
The problem comes in if you believe in a literal interpretation of the Old Testament, particularly of Genesis. My church believes it's metaphor for important teachings, and in a sense, poetry. Others believe it is accurate history. I can't speak for fundamentalists, but I've come to know the family of a Pastor of a more fundamentalist church in our area well through things our churches have done together for the community. The wife is a biologist at a nearby university. Her line of thought is this--even as a fundamentalist, it's arrogant to believe you are capable of directly interpreting and understanding the actions of God through scripture. The acts of God are a mystery, and often beyond our understanding. At some point, when we understand science perfectly, and God perfectly, we may know the truth. I thought that was an interesting concept.
Interesting. Is your biblical skepticism limited to the Old Testament, or does it also include the miraculous in the NT? What about the Resurrection?
Lol. Logically proving the existence of something is much easier than prooving the opposite You created this new "being" i.e. conflict between science and religion so you prove it exist... So far no good argument while plenty against including long list of scientist who were believers and some scientific institutions affilated with churches.
I had a feeling you wouldn't give an answer to the question I asked. I tried, but oh well.
Maybe you could explain to me what argument from authority is?
Science has become intentionally distorted in an equivalence of twisted religious fervor, both to gain political advantage and further whatever fringe cause.
Science is unrecognizable to most and its critical interpretation is used creatively for nefarious purpose. Science has become a pretend set of facts whose name is 'dropped' in an attempt to get automatic respect of any nonsense spoken as 'gospel'.
Hmm.. Can you give specific examples of how science has become intentionally distorted?
Science and faith are not mutually exclusive......after all....God created science and its processes.....
Can't serve two masters...God and SCIENCE..you will love one and grow to hate the other,
Key word is "serve"...GOD does not need or expect servitude from humanity. Seems that the religion of science seems to expect us to serve it - It is to serve us..not the other way around. SCIENCE is fact..pushed along by theory..and theory is opinion till through scientific method proven to be fact...the history of science is riddled with mistakes and corrections.
The history of religion or the ideas of God are also riddled with mistakes and corrections- both are in an eternal state of evolution..to cease the quest and institutionalize our thinking in both these regards is fatal-------learning is on going for eternity...learning the nature of God and Science is the same thing..
Once on group say they have all the answers...intelligent progression and evolution stops...it becomes an institution...and all institutions get locked in the static position....God and science are one.
I do but I don't think you have any. Your arrogance is typical for people with little or no education.
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That's your closing shot?
Closing shot? You didn't provide any evidence. Period.
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