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Old 10-31-2010, 09:45 AM
 
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Why Is Indiana Putting Armed Security Guards Into 36 Unemployment Offices Across The State?

Why Is Indiana Putting Armed Security Guards Into 36 Unemployment Offices Across The State?

Did you ever think that things in America would get so bad that we would need to put armed guards into our unemployment offices? Well, that is exactly what is happening in Indiana. Armed security guards will now be posted at all 36 full-service unemployment offices in the state of Indiana. So why is this happening now? Well, Indiana Department of Workforce Development spokesman Marc Lotter says that the agency is bringing in the extra security in anticipation of an upcoming deadline when thousands upon thousands of Indiana residents could have their unemployment benefits cut off. But it is not just the state of Indiana that could have a problem. In fact, one recent study found that approximately 2 million Americans will lose their unemployment insurance benefits during this upcoming holiday season unless Congress authorizes another emergency extension of benefits by the end of November. At this point, however, that is looking less and less likely.
Probably because the 99res have unionized and we all know how violent some of these union thugs get. Perhaps a better question would be why didn't they have armed security before?
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Old 10-31-2010, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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"Plenty-O-Jobs"? LMAO

What a clueless perspective.........as well as a lazy view! Great. Blame the jobless for ALL OUR PROBLEMS.
Many of these jobless are waiting for jobs that will not come back.
Reality hasn't hit home and the government is not helping.

Economy is going to be dismal for the next 2 years. And even then the economists don't know what we will return to.

Will UE be a replacement for salaries as long as they don't work ?
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Old 10-31-2010, 09:47 AM
 
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Just a question, how long do you think people should be entitled to receive UE compensation? Do you have a timeline, or is it just indefinite? At what point should people move off UE and onto welfare?

And, how do you expect the country to pay for endless UE when our leadership is doing nothing to create and grow jobs and the economy? Should we continue to print and borrow money to fund UE? Is that a logical solution in your opinion?
Don't taxpayers pay for welfare costs, too? Basically, the money is coming from the same source. However, switching from UE to welfare should increase the workload for employees who adminster welfare money to people.
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Old 10-31-2010, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Don't taxpayers pay for welfare costs, too? Basically, the money is coming from the same source. However, switching from UE to welfare should increase the workload for employees who adminster welfare money to people.
Employers pay into the UE system but I guess after the 26 weeks then we are responsible as taxpayers.
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Old 10-31-2010, 09:56 AM
 
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Many of these jobless are waiting for jobs that will not come back.
Reality hasn't hit home and the government is not helping.

Economy is going to be dismal for the next 2 years. And even then the economists don't know what we will return to.

Will UE be a replacement for salaries as long as they don't work ?
I agree, the jobs are not coming back and reality hasn't "hit home" yet for many that life as we have known it here is not going to return.

The question is, what can be done? Are we headed for the world of "Mad Max"?

It takes time for people to fall from the $200,000 per year socio-economic level in life down to the poverty level. In addition to the UE benefits they've been receiving, eventually those people have to SELL their homes, and many other personal possessionsn in order to survive. It's a long, hard fall and process.

IMO, WE as a society need to figure out what we are going to do regarding these huge economic changes that are and will be taking place in the livestyles of so many people. Are we in the process of becoming mostly a "third world" country?

There are NOT even enough minimum wage jobs out there these days. Those much-worshiped private companies/corporations just love the free trade world where they can take their jobs to other countries and pay workers barely any money to do the work, and then send products back to US to sell. Only problem is that our consumer society doesn't have the money to BUY those products so much anymore.

IF ONLY our problems were as simple as "LAZY PEOPLE." Dear god! What a relief that would be!
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Old 10-31-2010, 10:03 AM
 
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Probably because the 99res have unionized and we all know how violent some of these union thugs get. Perhaps a better question would be why didn't they have armed security before?
Any you think that hungry, hopeless people will never resort to violence to feed their families or over injustices which cause their familes to go hungry? Jeeeeeezus! Seems that some people have lived in a very insulated world for far too long. Look at the big picture. Also, would be helpful if folks could dig really, really deep and discover a bit of compassion........for they, too, may be in need sooner rather than later.

Get off the union-bashing bandwagon! IMO, that's really pathetic reasoning.
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Old 10-31-2010, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Any you think that hungry, hopeless people will never resort to violence to feed their families or over injustices which cause their familes to go hungry? Jeeeeeezus! Seems that some people have lived in a very insulated world for far too long. Look at the big picture. Also, would be helpful if folks could dig really, really deep and discover a bit of compassion........for they, too, may be in need sooner rather than later.

Get off the union-bashing bandwagon! IMO, that's really pathetic reasoning.
Middle class families who have NEVER been on public assistance will more readily go to a local food pantry than to the food stamp office.
You see them in thrift stores as well.

These are the folks trying to make it on their own.
These are the folks I go out of my way to help...support and donate to your local places people and help your neighbors.
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Old 10-31-2010, 10:12 AM
 
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Any you think that hungry, hopeless people will never resort to violence to feed their families or over injustices which cause their familes to go hungry? Jeeeeeezus! Seems that some people have lived in a very insulated world for far too long. Look at the big picture. Also, would be helpful if folks could dig really, really deep and discover a bit of compassion........for they, too, may be in need sooner rather than later.

Get off the union-bashing bandwagon! IMO, that's really pathetic reasoning.
There was nothing incompassionate about my statement. Grow up and pull your head out of the sand. Take a look at the unionized protests and strikes in Europe over benefits and retirement age.

I understand very well that "there but for the grace of God go I".

There are food stamps and soup kitchens/food panteries for the hungry in this country. I donate enough every year to feed more than 500 families for several weeks. How many do you feed? How much fresh meat do you personally kill, pay to have processed, and contribute to your local food pantry in addition? How much do you give to children's hospitals so that those who cannot pay can still get life saving care? I'm talking about voluntary donations, not government forced "social justice".

Don't tell me to dig deep Buster! I will do what I choose as that is true charity. Social justice and forced confiscation of taxpayer wealth to pay for the unproductive in society is not commpassion, it is highway robbery by the government. Period.

I'll bash unions every opportunity I get. Most of them are little more than organized crime. Most of them are out to destroy the private sector. "Card check" is absolutely un-American.
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Old 10-31-2010, 10:16 AM
 
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Middle class families who have NEVER been on public assistance will more readily go to a local food pantry than to the food stamp office.
You see them in thrift stores as well.

These are the folks trying to make it on their own.
These are the folks I go out of my way to help...support and donate to your local places people and help your neighbors.
^^^^ Exactly!
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Old 10-31-2010, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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If the libs want to keep indefinitely extending UE benefits, what's wrong with forcing the recipients to donate some of their free, non-job seeking time to the communities? Surely, the unemployed are not job hunting 40 hours per week. I think it's prudent to ask them to contribute in some fashion in return for their UE benefits. Paying people to do nothing begets nothing.
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