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Old 11-07-2010, 03:15 PM
 
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A Pew Research Center for the People & the Press survey released last week found that those who attend weekly church services are more likely than those who rarely or never attend services to say the use of torture on suspected terrorists is justifiable

The poll also suggests that those who are religious are more likely to say the use of torture can be justified than those who are not religious.

Churchgoers More Likely To See Torture As Justifiable - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

and anyone posting on CD for awhile is not surprised.
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:16 PM
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Location: Wisconsin
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I sure don't know what kind of church these people go to!!!! One thing I know for sure.....it isn't anything like mine.
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:19 PM
 
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I sure don't know what kind of church these people go to!!!! One thing I know for sure.....it isn't anything like mine.
I'm sure it is not, but we all know that hypocrisy thrives in many religious settings. Here's more from the article...

Hot Air, meanwhile, argues that "the results probably indicate political correlation more so than religious influence."

"Evangelicals are more likely to be conservative and conservatives are more likely to support coercive interrogation, ergo evangelicals are more likely to support coercive interrogation; atheists are more likely to be liberal and therefore less likely to support it," writes blogger Allahpundit.
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:27 PM
 
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It is strange isn't it?
I have read through many hardcore right-wing Christian posts here on CD over time & they are the biggest population of people who defend water boarding & torture.
I don't understand it.
Nobody should use torture & nobody should justify using it under any circumstances, especially because it has NOT been shown to be effective at all & in fact, has led to many 'confessions' that are bogus.
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:31 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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A Pew Research Center for the People & the Press survey released last week found that those who attend weekly church services are more likely than those who rarely or never attend services to say the use of torture on suspected terrorists is justifiable

The poll also suggests that those who are religious are more likely to say the use of torture can be justified than those who are not religious.

Churchgoers More Likely To See Torture As Justifiable - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

and anyone posting on CD for awhile is not surprised.
Are you kidding?!?! As a christian this is such a no brainer. Torture is un-christian! There's NO WAY AROUND IT!!
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:53 PM
 
Location: OKC
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Remnants of the inquisitions?
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:58 PM
 
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A Pew Research Center for the People & the Press survey released last week found that those who attend weekly church services are more likely than those who rarely or never attend services to say the use of torture on suspected terrorists is justifiable

The poll also suggests that those who are religious are more likely to say the use of torture can be justified than those who are not religious.

Churchgoers More Likely To See Torture As Justifiable - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

and anyone posting on CD for awhile is not surprised.

I go to church regularly and see no problem with torturing terrorists at all. They are out to kill us, after all. The Bible is full of passages of the righteous slaughtering thier foes. The forces of evil SHOULD be killed.

One of the Ten Commandments is "Thou Shall Not Kill", but that refers to fellow neighbors, countrymen, and family members, not enemies focused on killing you. Killing your enemies is just fine. If it takes a little torture to extract information from them, well............what the heck- don't take up arms against us if you are not keen about being tortured.

Despite going to church, I never discuss religion in public or in social settings- few Catholics do. I do not care what anyone else thinks and go to church as it provides me insight into my own life and makes me feel better. I suppose that others use drugs or drink for the very same reasons. Whatever floats thier boat is okay with me.
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Old 11-07-2010, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I go to church regularly and see no problem with torturing terrorists at all. They are out to kill us, after all. The Bible is full of passages of the righteous slaughtering thier foes. The forces of evil SHOULD be killed.

One of the Ten Commandments is "Thou Shall Not Kill", but that refers to fellow neighbors, countrymen, and family members, not enemies focused on killing you. Killing your enemies is just fine. If it takes a little torture to extract information from them, well............what the heck- don't take up arms against us if you are not keen about being tortured.

Despite going to church, I never discuss religion in public or in social settings- few Catholics do. I do not care what anyone else thinks and go to church as it provides me insight into my own life and makes me feel better. I suppose that others use drugs or drink for the very same reasons. Whatever floats thier boat is okay with me.
I realize that Catholics would have no problem with torture because of their history, but I tend to think of the Catholic Church as more of a business than a religious organization, anyway (my wife is Catholic, BTW, and agrees with me on this point).

However, you also claim to be a physician and if so should have taken the Hippocratic Oath.

Do you remember it? How can you reconcile torture with that oath?
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Old 11-07-2010, 04:58 PM
 
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So, you don't think sickos like pedophiles, murders, rapists, and terrorists should be tortured?
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Old 11-07-2010, 05:15 PM
 
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So what they are saying is, that a LOT of people see torture as justifiable. It just so happens there are a lot of people that are churchgoers.

Are they really implying that churchgoers are not humanitarian to terrorists? Or don't forgive? Or that they are hypocrites for not being against torture?

What an absolutely useless study.
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