Athiests put up billboard just in time for Holiday season (downturn, economic)

[hammertime33]

seriously, honk*y (as in bull-honk*y) is a banned word on here?

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by TKramar

N..o..n...e o..f...th..e...m...

Said it real slowly for you this time.

Waving your hands slowly is still hand waving.

Here's a single example that proves you wrong:

1) Air travel causes an effect: inflammation in the blood vessels of the legs.

2) Inflammation in the blood vessels of the legs causes an effect: a blood clot to form.

3) That blood clot travels to the brain and causes an effect: a stroke.

QED: The blood clot is both an effect (of leg inflammation) and a cause (of a stroke) at the same time.



Now, your turn to stop being a poltroon and just answer the question:

Show me a single example of a cause that is not also an effect.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by TKramar

Let's start with reanimating the dead, bringing the dead back to life. Jumpstarting the old noggin?

That's a question?

[ray1945]

Originally Posted by TKramar

The devil is in the details, isn't it?

If I go out tonight, I have an equal chance of determining if it is going to rain on me, as the weatherman has, who's supposed to rely on science, and I'm gambling on a coin toss.

Since science does not have the answer, it is reasonable to find other explanations.

Seriously? You wouldn't say that if you lived in S. Florida during hurricane season....

[TKramar]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

Waving your hands slowly is still hand waving.

Here's a single example that proves you wrong:

1) Air travel causes an effect: inflammation in the blood vessels of the legs.

2) Inflammation in the blood vessels of the legs causes an effect: a blood clot to form.

3) That blood clot travels to the brain and causes an effect: a stroke.

QED: The blood clot is both an effect (if leg inflammation) and a cause (of a stroke) at the same time.



Now, your turn to stop being a poltroon and just answer the question:

Show me a single example of a cause that is not also an effect.

Wow, again, your first cause did not produce the effect in question. Since I've flown, and I've never gotten a stroke, I'd say your reasoning was faulty. Your causes didn't even cause the effects. And your so called effects, were not causes.

[TKramar]

Originally Posted by ray1945

Seriously? You wouldn't say that if you lived in S. Florida during hurricane season....

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Hurricane Charley, 2004.

The weathermen assured all of us watching that Charley was going to make landfall somewhere north of Tampa.

WRONG! Instead, it fooled those scientists and hit the very town I was living in, over 100 miles to the south.

Since science FAILED to predict the landfall accurately, why should I put credence in it?

[ray1945]

Originally Posted by TKramar

I have no problem with your desire to believe in the FSM if that's what you choose to believe. I wouldn't even attempt to refute you, if you chose to believe in a deity. Good job.

Since you do understand that science doesn't explain everything, religion/philosophy explains the rest.

Now you're advancing.

Wrong. Religion/philosophy ponder the rest - neither provides proof of anything, consequently there are no explanations.

[hammertime33]

Originally Posted by TKramar

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Hurricane Charley, 2004.

The weathermen assured all of us watching that Charley was going to make landfall somewhere north of Tampa.

WRONG! Instead, it fooled those scientists and hit the very town I was living in, over 100 miles to the south.

Since science FAILED to predict the landfall accurately, why should I put credence in it?

Credence in science in general?

How much of science do you reject?

[TKramar]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

That's a question?

Did you not see the question mark?

Can you create human life, without using human gametes? Heck, I was nice, I'm giving you a dead body, all you have to do is get it going again, Victor.

[Memphis1979]

Originally Posted by ray1945

Seriously? You wouldn't say that if you lived in S. Florida during hurricane season....

I can't say a day would go by without rain during the summer, regardless of what the weather man says. I'm in North Florida, and everyday we get rain during the summer.

Just a quick passing shower usually, but its still rain.