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GO BECK GO FOX NEWS AT LEAST THAT CHANNEL OF NEWS IS NOT IN SOMEONE POCKET.
We need a honest news channel and people. Seem like people do not know what communist is.
This tactic is always used when one can intellectually defend their position with logic and facts as those of us who defend GB because he urges all of us to think for ourselves rather than to listen to the fools justapostioned next to him here on this thread.
Beck urges intelligent people to do their own research and not take his word for it. A challenege many here can't respond to because they likely can't do the research it takes to learn the truth. It is much easier to get on board the old Beck bash wagon because they don't have to think, just knee jerk react. Not sure I want those vacuous types suppporting anything I support.
First, I asked for proof from his neice, not from MLK himself, but since you went to the trouble....
You are taking the buzz phrase "distribution of wealth" and attributing it to Communism? Absolutely ridiculous. The distribution of wealth knows no ideology, so on that you fail.
The Jerico road allusion is one that individualism will solve, not Communism or collectivism. So no pass on Communism there. He may indict the Western Capitalist but he puts the emphasis on the individual to help themselves first. He never once uses the ideology of Communism nor does he even use the word. A system that helps its fellow man can be a Libertarian one, a Socialist one, or even a Communist one. He makes no distinction as to the "system" he is referring to in your citation.
The military budget we Libertarians believe is overbloated and since we believe that we should bring home all US troops from abroad and hand control over to the UN. I don't see how that relates to Communism either. I have never heard GB equate Communism with the military but if you can show me, by all mean do it, because so far you have proved nothing germaine to the OP.
You may have cited MLK ideology here, but it has nothing whatsoever to do with Communism. MLK was an individualist and preached freedom through individualism and participation of the individual to resist the state. You see this in your own citation of his speeches. MLK was not a collectivist nor was he a Communist. Indeed J Edgar Hoover tried like hell to paint him as a "Commie", he never succeeded in doing so.
The best ecomomic system that distributes the wealth is Capitalism and MLK knew it. Kennedy was a Capitalist and even cut taxes to expand the economy. Imagine that? I think you are attributing the distribution of wealth to the recent buzz of "redistribution of wealth" and these are two entirely different scenarios.
You wrote "have had on more than once, MLK's neice"
Of what value is having MLK's niece on? She is not a well known figure in her own right. The value is in the fact that she proclaims to be carrying out the mission of her famous uncle and therefore in theory can speak to the values that Dr. King fought for.
I wrote "The niece of a known Progressive, Social Justice Christian, who advocated wealth redistribution and associated with known communists."
I then provided evidence that Dr. Martin King, Jr was a Progressive, Social Justice Christian. I don't proclaim Progressive, Social Justice Christians to be Communists or Nazis, Glenn Beck does.
Have you read much of Dr. King's works? Did you read the "Where do we go from here?" (Sorry for the bad link.)
Now, our country can do this. John Kenneth Galbraith said that a guaranteed annual income could be done for about twenty billion dollars a year. And I say to you today, that if our nation can spend thirty-five billion dollars a year to fight an unjust, evil war in Vietnam, and twenty billion dollars to put a man on the moon, it can spend billions of dollars to put God's children on their own two feet right here on earth.
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King may have believed in the power of the individual, but he understood that we are also all tied together. He also wasn't afraid to call on the Federal government to assist in solving problems like poverty.
Through our scientific and technological genius, we have made of this world a neighborhood and yet we have not had the ethical commitment to make of it a brotherhood. But somehow, and in some way, we have got to do this. We must all learn to live together as brothers or we will all perish together as fools. We are tied together in the single garment of destiny, caught in an inescapable network of mutuality. And whatever affects one directly affects all indirectly. For some strange reason I can never be what I ought to be until you are what you ought to be. And you can never be what you ought to be until I am what I ought to be. This is the way God’s universe is made; this is the way it is structured.
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And this can happen to America, the richest nation in the world—and nothing’s wrong with that—this is America’s opportunity to help bridge the gulf between the haves and the have-nots. The question is whether America will do it. There is nothing new about poverty. What is new is that we now have the techniques and the resources to get rid of poverty. The real question is whether we have the will.
In a few weeks some of us are coming to Washington to see if the will is still alive or if it is alive in this nation. We are coming to Washington in a Poor People’s Campaign. Yes, we are going to bring the tired, the poor, the huddled masses. We are going to bring those who have known long years of hurt and neglect. We are going to bring those who have come to feel that life is a long and desolate corridor with no exit signs. We are going to bring children and adults and old people, people who have never seen a doctor or a dentist in their lives.
We are not coming to engage in any histrionic gesture. We are not coming to tear up Washington. We are coming to demand that the government address itself to the problem of poverty. We read one day, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness." But if a man doesn’t have a job or an income, he has neither life nor liberty nor the possibility for the pursuit of happiness. He merely exists.
We are coming to ask America to be true to the huge promissory note that it signed years ago. And we are coming to engage in dramatic nonviolent action, to call attention to the gulf between promise and fulfillment; to make the invisible visible.
Why do we do it this way? We do it this way because it is our experience that the nation doesn’t move around questions of genuine equality for the poor and for black people until it is confronted massively, dramatically in terms of direct action.
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Yes, it will be a Poor People’s Campaign. This is the question facing America. Ultimately a great nation is a compassionate nation. America has not met its obligations and its responsibilities to the poor.
One day we will have to stand before the God of history and we will talk in terms of things we’ve done. Yes, we will be able to say we built gargantuan bridges to span the seas, we built gigantic buildings to kiss the skies. Yes, we made our submarines to penetrate oceanic depths. We brought into being many other things with our scientific and technological power.
It seems that I can hear the God of history saying, "That was not enough! But I was hungry, and ye fed me not. I was naked, and ye clothed me not. I was devoid of a decent sanitary house to live in, and ye provided no shelter for me. And consequently, you cannot enter the kingdom of greatness. If ye do it unto the least of these, my brethren, ye do it unto me." That’s the question facing America today.
............. By the way what was it that Cloward and Piven were calling for in the document Beck is constantly referencing? A guaranteed National Income, just like Dr. King.
This tactic is always used when one can intellectually defend their position with logic and facts as those of us who defend GB because he urges all of us to think for ourselves rather than to listen to the fools justapostioned next to him here on this thread.
Beck urges intelligent people to do their own research and not take his word for it. A challenege many here can't respond to because they likely can't do the research it takes to learn the truth. It is much easier to get on board the old Beck bash wagon because they don't have to think, just knee jerk react. Not sure I want those vacuous types suppporting anything I support.
Well it is obvious beck watchers don't do their own research because all they do is parrot beck. In case you missed it. The OP was a joke and yes Liberals know that it was a joke, and we are still laughing.
Did I just see you calling me and others ignorant and paranoid because we don't spend all our time trying to make Beck out to be something like you want him to be? Don't call me that kind of names, please.
hi roy,
i actually have started watching some glenn beck lately, and it is all i can do not to yell at the television. if it makes you feel any better, i don't think he's a communist.
i'm not telling you to go watch MSNBC or read the New York Times. smug liberals are not any better. i'm just saying, go watch something like Bill Moyers on PBS, or go read the Economist, if you want an accurate idea about what is going on in the world. There are even some partisan, blatantly Republican news outlets that are not too bad, like Reason magazine, or the Heritage foundation.
Anybody but Glenn Beck, anything but Fox News. I'm not against a conservative ideology -- i'm against the way they string together unrelated facts, and use them to create stories and insinuations that they cannot prove. Then they hammer away creating a false fear.... and in their story, the "problem" can always be magically "solved" by voting out the Democrats. How convenient.
Just look at the commercials they advertise during Glenn Beck... it is all selling gold! Gold is what people buy when they are terrified. they are commoditizing your fear and selling it to advertisers.
i actually have started watching some glenn beck lately, and it is all i can do not to yell at the television.
i'm not telling you to go watch MSNBC or read the New York Times. smug liberals are not any better. i'm just saying, go watch something like Bill Moyers on PBS, or go read the Economist, if you want an accurate idea about what is going on in the world. There are even some partisan, blatantly Republican news outlets that are not too bad, like Reason magazine, or the Heritage foundation.
Anybody but Glenn Beck, anything but Fox News. I'm not against their ideology -- i'm against the way they string together facts, and use them to create stories that they cannot prove. Then they hammer away creating a false fear.... and in their story, the "problem" can always be magically "solved" by voting out the Democrats. How convenient.
Just look at the commercials they advertise during Glenn Beck... it is all selling gold! Gold is exactly what people buy when they are terrified.
I don't think I shall, thank you. BTW learn the difference between then and than as well as the proper use of commas.
Please try to take this as kindly as possible but when you write a long winded diatribe about "liberals", or any other subject, your creditability depends on being able to correctly use the English language. When you misspell common English words then it makes you look like a poorly educated rube and that just doesn't engender confidence in your abilities as an analyst. If you want people to take your ideas seriously then you need to learn to speak, write, and read English correctly. That's not picking a fault, that's stating a fact.
Thank you Sir, for being so factual!! Your kindness couldn't have shown more. I see that I need to think before I type. There are times spell-check corrects it and I don't catch it. Give it a rest.
I'm sure you don't mind when Robert Gates or President Obama pause 10 seconds and say "UM, UM", and during a Michelle Obama interview where she said "YOU KNOW" more than I could count. Which, drives me crazy and I don't see where this is intelligent talking, but some do!!
With your Liberal mind you must also agree that taxes create jobs, along with unemployment, helps people to spend money. Yeah, words might get mixed up, but at least I realize it's motivation and the working person that gets it done. How about you!!
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I don't know how old you are but I suspect you're a teen so reading more books would help to familiarize yourself with the proper use of the English language or taking a remedial English course (if it hasn't already been cut from your local high school) would also help.
It's only obvious you know I'm not a teen, you have been reading my posts. This was just a jab, that's fine, at least I'm still showing my young side. You Sir, seem to be a mean "OLE' MAN" or maybe, an uptight "Young Man".
My sound is not working so could not hear the clip, but did Komrade Keith refer to Beck as a communist? Now that is too funny. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Lol. Beck is about as far away from being a Red as a person could get. KO, on the other hand, spews forth the Party line every time he opens his trap. On a station loaded with Marxists, Olbermann rates as the leading Bolshevik.
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