Milk is not healthy - Don't let the milk lobby fool you (Georgia, million)

[RCCCB]

Originally Posted by Pamky

Willett and his colleagues analyzed dietary information gathered from nearly 80,000 women, ages 30 to 55, over a 12-year period. They found no evidence that women who consumed one to three servings daily of milk or other calcium-rich foods--like cheese or yogurt--reduced their risk of hip fractures, the standard measure for osteoporosis.
Got milk - or more? - a study by Harvard University researcher Walter Willett found no evidence that consuming dairy products helps prevent osteoporosis - includes related article on the calcium controversy - Brief Article | Vegetarian Times | Find A

Butter, meat, eggs, milk, and cheese are implicated in higher rates of hormone-dependent cancers in general, she said. Breast cancer has been linked particularly to consumption of milk and cheese.

Hormones in milk can be dangerous

The anti-milk lobby also claims that consumption of dairy products can aggravate rheumatoid arthritis and has been implicated in colic, acne, heart disease, asthma, lymphoma, ovarian cancer and multiple sclerosis.

Dairy monsters: Just how healthy is milk? | Life and style | The Guardian

If you don't agree with the things posted above, feel free to post studys that support your claims.

Would going to a store like Whole Foods and getting organic milk maybe bypass the problems?

[Ceece]

Originally Posted by ergohead

The "people" I'm talking about are Government people.

They think its crazy because they'll arrest you if they can.

You'd have to be crazy to risk getting arrested.

Who will arrest me and for what?

[RCCCB]

Originally Posted by georgia dem

please I don't need the food police!
we are big boys and girls and get to decide for ourself what we want to eat and drink

I think people can inform us about content all day long, like you are basically saying, don't pull it off the table for me.
I do believe the more natural or safe alternatives are available in the organic sections at a higher price.

The reasons we got the cheaper products in some cases was the doctoring of what is fed to animals and the antibiotics or hormones some are given.

[North Beach Person]

Milk still has to be pastuerized. And although some here have complained about it the reality is that the process has saved countless lives (look up milk sickness). Raw milk is incredibly volatile and will begin to grow harmful bacteria colonies in fairly short order after milking. Even the raw milk I drank was lightly pasteurized on the stove (I don't remember to what temperature it was heated).

[Ceece]

If you want raw milk you can always buy a cow or a goat. Or make friends with one.

[TnHilltopper]

From procon.org, a site in which professionals in their respected fields give the pros and cons to questions. In this case the question was posed to the FDA concerning cow given iBGH,

Does milk contain pus

The FDA stated that milk contains "safe amounts of somatic cells for human consumption"

Some of the doctors and researchers responses.

Charles Knouse, DO, general practice physician, stated in a Aug. 18, 2009 e-mail to ProCon.org:

"While the use of the word 'pus' is admittedly pejorative, it is nonetheless an appropriate word."

Robert M. Kradjian, MD, Surgeon at Seton Medical Centre,

"I'm sorry to tell you that another way to describe white cells where they don't belong would be to call them pus cells."


Samuel S. Epstein, MD, Chairman of the Cancer Prevention Coalition

"[Monsanto brand Artificial Bovine Growth Hormone], a pamphlet that only dairy farmers see, admits that its 'use is associated with increased frequency of use of medication in cows for mastitis and other health problems.' Monsanto's own data further show up to an 80% incidence of mastitis, an udder infection, in hormone-treated cattle and resulting contamination of milk with statistically significant levels of pus…"

The National Dairy Council wrote in a Dec. 21, 2007 email to ProCon.org:

"There is no pus in milk. All milk"

Is there pus in milk? - Milk - ProCon.org


Of course the FDA has allowances for pieces of bugs, rodent feces and all manners of things that inevitably make it into our food supply. Be it in flour, sugar, coffee, or a nice juicy chicken McNugget, chances are you are eating something in addition to what you think you are eating.

Like all things in life, there is a certain element of risk involved. You could drown in a swimming pool, get hit by a drunk driver, or even a meteor while playing ball in the yard, but we accept certain levels of risk and go on never even thinking about pus in our milk, cockroach pieces in our pies or a chickens head in a chicken mcnugget.

http://freddyo.com/media/wpmu/uploads/blogs.dir/1/files/2008/10/mcd_chicken_head.jpg (broken link)

[Ceece]

I head all the junk that was allowed in a hot dog once. I still enjoy the occasional chili dog though.

[TnHilltopper]

Originally Posted by Ceece

I head all the junk that was allowed in a hot dog once. I still enjoy the occasional chili dog though.

Exactly! I don't drink nearly the milk I used to, but I still have the occasional glass and a wedge of cheese. Thankfully there are more organic choices coming available now and I live in an agricultural/Mennonite community so fresh produce and meats are available.

I am concerned about the amount of chemicals and biologicals in our food these days as I don't think we truly know the full extent of their effects, but all the same, hand me the mustard and some slaw for my dog. (which could be real dog in some places and I'd never know)

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by Ceece

Who will arrest me and for what?

Dealin' in unadulterated milk.

[TKramar]

Originally Posted by ergohead

Dealin' in unadulterated milk.

Mamas do that quite a bit.