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Old 12-23-2010, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Reagan was pretty dismal and a big spender.
"Dismal" only to a leftist! And the Democrat-controlled Congress spent, on average, 2.8% more than Reagan asked for and a (cumulative) 24.5% over 8 years.

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He was even dismal as a governor here in CA.
He was a very good governor who kept spending under control.

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And before that he was dismal as a B movie actor. Sort of like Arnold (luckily the latter couldn't run for Presidency)

So? Harry Truman was a tailor before he was president. Does that make a difference?
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Old 12-23-2010, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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I'd suggest FDR, since he retained power through four elections.

If it were not for the amendment establishing term limits, we may have had someone as bad or worse.
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Old 12-23-2010, 03:04 PM
 
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"Dismal" only to a leftist! And the Democrat-controlled Congress spent, on average, 2.8% more than Reagan asked for and a (cumulative) 24.5% over 8 years.



He was a very good governor who kept spending under control.




So? Harry Truman was a tailor before he was president. Does that make a difference?
Only if he was born in Austria or other non-US country (except, perhaps, Kenya)!!
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Old 12-23-2010, 03:09 PM
 
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I'd suggest FDR, since he retained power through four elections.

If it were not for the amendment establishing term limits, we may have had someone as bad or worse.
I would agree with you wholeheartedly that FDR was a bad President. His policies, as his Sec'y of Treasury later admitted, took a relatively-minor recession, and turned it into the Great Depression. Government is government, it is NOT the economy, and when it tries too hard to be a player, business become hesitant.
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Old 12-23-2010, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Mansfield Ohio
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Default Judging by who runs the media this list is not suprising HINT HINT

Remember folks who runs the media.

The list is a pile of garbage on many fronts. Notice how any President who was a progressive NWO guy ala Wilson FDR Truman Johnson Carter Clinton are treated as if they sit at the right hand of almighty Karl Marx and his two children VI Lenin and Joe Stalin in Commie heaven. After all remember who runs the media HINT HINT.

Andrew Johnson was a great man because he was one of the last Constitutionalists we had as President. He knew the 14th Amendment was evil law and it has proved so to be until this day. The Amendment was never about blacks but about creating the United States Corporation. Today we are not a nation we are a corporation. The 14th Amendment also gave us the basis for Corporate Personhood where corporations are treated as human beings and for that wonderful premise that all born on our soil are automatic citizens THE ANCHOR BABY. Rothschild didnt like Andrew and neither does the "media"

General Grant was a good man and a wise leader. He tried to annex the Dominican Repubic to create an All Black State. The premise was this. Create a seperate state for blacks only which would send two men to the US Senate and would also send representatives to the US House. Only blacks would be able to be elected in this state. The radicals shot him down. Grant grieved in his memoirs his settlement plan did not work out because he felt that population alleviation was the only thing that would help the Deep South. Grant was pro Civil Rights as well but felt that resettlement was the only way to forever guarantee rights. Good President.

Poor President Harding. I am from Ohio not very far from where Harding was born. Some think Harding's parents were partially African but who knows the Harding estate would never open the tomb for a DNA test.
President Harding was part of the last group of men along with later Senator Robert Taft who stood against international involvements. Harding helped kill the League of Nations. Meanwhile the Rothschilds using our own Federal Reserve start funding the Italian fascists and later the Nazis to make a Second War. Poor Harding was blamed for alot of things. He is one of my isolationist heroes.

I am happy to see President McKinley didnt make the list. Good man who stood against evils such as direct taxation and foreign involvements but the evil Progressives forced Cuba upon him then his lucky demise paved the way for Teddy Roosevelt and Progressive garbage.

THE WORST PRESIDENT OF US HISTORY WAS LYNDON BAINES JOHNSON.
Complete with Unconstitutional Civil Rights laws, destructive immigration reform, open borders with Mexico, and Vietnam and the Dope boom.
LBJ=SATANS SON
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Old 12-23-2010, 04:47 PM
 
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Well there was an axis of evil. Now it's a couple of marginalized states against the world.
There was never such a thing as an axis of evil... Iran is more emboldened than ever, North Korea is still just as much a threat as 10 years ago.
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Old 12-23-2010, 06:33 PM
 
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There was never such a thing as an axis of evil... Iran is more emboldened than ever, North Korea is still just as much a threat as 10 years ago.
And Iraq? Iran has, at any time, nearly a million people willing to revolt. NK is showing its incompetence right now, as we speak. The axis of evil is breaking down like it or not.
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Old 12-24-2010, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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I agree that this was a collosal error. We should've separated from the South to prevent the collosal vile ignorance that defined their culture from spilling over into the rest of the nation. We as a nation have been suffering ever since. Lincoln ended slavery and this I commend him for. Some of the others on the list allowed it to exist, and they certainly belong on any list of worst presidents.

I also agree about those damn Bushes.

Hopefully, you will not be one of the millions who are leaving the North (with it's colossal vile ignorance that defines the North's culture) for a permanent residence in the South. I'm sure the people in the South would not want your culture spilling over into the rest of the nation.
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Old 12-24-2010, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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How can Obama be "ranked?" We still have to see what else he does to damage the country... we already know that he is outspending even G.W. Bush.
Well, he's certainly on track to achieve one of the "ten worst" spots. Here is what the Germans think about his 2010;


SPIEGEL's Washington correspondent Marc Hujer writes on SPIEGEL ONLINE:


"Barack Obama was the biggest loser of 2010. He allowed the angry Tea Party movement to grow powerful, he did not pass any decent laws despite his majority in Congress and he was aloof, elitist and indecisive. He had to accept a formidable, yet entirely understandable, defeat in the midterm elections as a result. No one expected much from Obama, at least not during the rest of this year."
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Old 12-24-2010, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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At the time the last poll was included in their very strange assembly of surveys, the full impact of Clintons decision to repeal Glass-Steigal - making some financial institutions too big to fail - was unknown, as was his decision to require the GSEs to buy subprime CRA mortgages and his decision to leave mortgage backed securities unregulated. .
And this was all the result of Clinton abdicating/caving in to Republicans.

Can you not extrapolate this important omission from inference when you are attacking Clinton?

I agree with you on your assertion about Clinton and it's all true, but still have to wonder how you divorce Republicans from it when the pressure for him to do all these things came from, you guessed it, Republicans.

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Most economists state that the 1999 legislation spearheaded by Gramm and signed into law by President Clinton — the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act — was significantly to blame for the 2007 subprime mortgage crisis and 2008 global economic crisis.[9][10] The Act is most widely known for repealing portions of the Glass-Steagall Act, which had regulated the financial services industry.
Clinton will rank as one of the best President for his smooth handling of the economy, his charisma, his expert handling of the military and his ability to never squander lives in wars of his own making, and many other attributes. His successor will likewise be remembered as one of the worst ever in this regard.
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