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Old 01-04-2011, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Bill Clinton got impeached for lying about Monica Lewinsky polishing his knob in the Oval Office when it had no bearing on the economy, nor was it nobody's business. That man balanced the federal budget, but that was irrelevent. George W. Bush took the equivalent of two years vacation the entire eight years he was in office. He lied about sending other people's children to die so Cheney could build an empire in the Middle East. Bush himself admitted on Meet The Press he couldn't find the link to Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attacks. Bush never found Osama Bin Laden like he promised, and he authorized torture at Guantanamo.

Barack Obama is a horrible President because he didn't pull out his magic wand and work up miracles overnight after he took office. It's all his fault deficit spending has gone wild, and he couldn't fix it even when Congress has given him hell since he's been in office. The national debt was irrelevant during the Bush Administration, yet now everyone us upset over deficit spending. Nevermind the fact that Obama ended the Iraq War Bush created, and he's now putting deadlines on our withdrawal from Afghanistan because he understands the price of these wars are ones neither we nor our children can afford. Forget about health care becoming more affordable for working class and poor people or the overturning of DADT. Disregard the 9/11 Health Benefits Bill, the START program, and the Food Safety Bill while we're at it.

It's considered socialism whenever we help the poor and middle class because they're there by choice. Spending money to build better schools, levees, dams, locks, roads, and bridges isn't cost-effective. Neither is extending unemployment because the blame lies on those out there unable to find jobs due to their lack of ambition rather than the ones who outsourced jobs overseas. Throwing out liferings for the rich is good for business because giving away $700 billion to Bank of America, AIG, and Citibank was supposed to remove us from the recession which it didn't. Furthermore, spending $1 billion on brand new sports complexes while the owners gets 10-percent profits is good for the community, but assisting those on welfare isn't worth our tax dollars. Am I reading this right?
Wow! That was a mouthful. I agree with some of what you said but not all. Will take time to take it all in and reply indepth. Good food for thought though.
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Northeast
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Bill Clinton got impeached for lying about Monica Lewinsky polishing his knob in the Oval Office when it had no bearing on the economy, nor was it nobody's business. That man balanced the federal budget, but that was irrelevent. George W. Bush took the equivalent of two years vacation the entire eight years he was in office. He lied about sending other people's children to die so Cheney could build an empire in the Middle East. Bush himself admitted on Meet The Press he couldn't find the link to Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attacks. Bush never found Osama Bin Laden like he promised, and he authorized torture at Guantanamo.

Barack Obama is a horrible President because he didn't pull out his magic wand and work up miracles overnight after he took office. It's all his fault deficit spending has gone wild, and he couldn't fix it even when Congress has given him hell since he's been in office. The national debt was irrelevant during the Bush Administration, yet now everyone us upset over deficit spending. Nevermind the fact that Obama ended the Iraq War Bush created, and he's now putting deadlines on our withdrawal from Afghanistan because he understands the price of these wars are ones neither we nor our children can afford. Forget about health care becoming more affordable for working class and poor people or the overturning of DADT. Disregard the 9/11 Health Benefits Bill, the START program, and the Food Safety Bill while we're at it.

It's considered socialism whenever we help the poor and middle class because they're there by choice. Spending money to build better schools, levees, dams, locks, roads, and bridges isn't cost-effective. Neither is extending unemployment because the blame lies on those out there unable to find jobs due to their lack of ambition rather than the ones who outsourced jobs overseas. Throwing out liferings for the rich is good for business because giving away $700 billion to Bank of America, AIG, and Citibank was supposed to remove us from the recession which it didn't. Furthermore, spending $1 billion on brand new sports complexes while the owners gets 10-percent profits is good for the community, but assisting those on welfare isn't worth our tax dollars. Am I reading this right?
lying and greed = good, caring and compassion = bad
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:22 AM
 
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Bill Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, that's perjury and that's everyone's business when it's committed by the President. Bill Clinton didn't balance the budget and having the President of the United states on trial for perjury did indeed affect the economy. I don't have time to reply to all the other BS but you are right, Bush sucked just like Obama does.
Clinton, Bush and Obama are all entertainers.

Respect them for what they are.
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:22 AM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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It was Attorney General Janet Reno who asked Ken Starr to investigate Clinton.
At Clinton's request, Attorney General Janet Reno appointed a special prosecutor Robert B. Fiske in 1994 to investigate the legality of the Whitewater transactions.

In August 1994, Kenneth Starr was appointed by a three-judge panel to continue the Whitewater investigation, replacing Robert B. Fiske, who had been specially appointed by the Attorney General prior to the re-enactment of the Independent Counsel law. Fiske was replaced because he had been chosen and appointed by Janet Reno, Clinton's Attorney General, creating an apparent conflict of interest.


Whitewater controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:25 AM
 
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Just to note, Clinton was impeached by the House but was aquitted by the Senate.
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:27 AM
 
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One only has to loo at the real doing of JFK to see what liberals really say is Ok for them but not for conservtives. Actaully trying to have castro killed by a connnection with the mob.Since then standards have really gone downhill. As JFK father said to his son's ;its not what you really are but what epople think you are .
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Austin
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lying and greed = good, caring and compassion = bad
I'm afraid you're right about that one. We have our values so jacked up in our society, it's unreal.
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:43 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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One only has to loo at the real doing of JFK to see what liberals really say is Ok for them but not for conservtives. Actaully trying to have castro killed by a connnection with the mob.Since then standards have really gone downhill.
Of course Conservatives would never do something like that, right? Say something like send an adulterer on a witch hunt for another?

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As JFK father said to his son's ;its not what you really are but what epople think you are .
I thought Jackson Browne said that?
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Old 01-04-2011, 12:52 PM
 
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Bill Clinton got impeached for lying about Monica Lewinsky polishing his knob in the Oval Office when it had no bearing on the economy, nor was it nobody's business. That man balanced the federal budget, but that was irrelevent. George W. Bush took the equivalent of two years vacation the entire eight years he was in office. He lied about sending other people's children to die so Cheney could build an empire in the Middle East. Bush himself admitted on Meet The Press he couldn't find the link to Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attacks. Bush never found Osama Bin Laden like he promised, and he authorized torture at Guantanamo.

Barack Obama is a horrible President because he didn't pull out his magic wand and work up miracles overnight after he took office. It's all his fault deficit spending has gone wild, and he couldn't fix it even when Congress has given him hell since he's been in office. The national debt was irrelevant during the Bush Administration, yet now everyone us upset over deficit spending. Nevermind the fact that Obama ended the Iraq War Bush created, and he's now putting deadlines on our withdrawal from Afghanistan because he understands the price of these wars are ones neither we nor our children can afford. Forget about health care becoming more affordable for working class and poor people or the overturning of DADT. Disregard the 9/11 Health Benefits Bill, the START program, and the Food Safety Bill while we're at it.

It's considered socialism whenever we help the poor and middle class because they're there by choice. Spending money to build better schools, levees, dams, locks, roads, and bridges isn't cost-effective. Neither is extending unemployment because the blame lies on those out there unable to find jobs due to their lack of ambition rather than the ones who outsourced jobs overseas. Throwing out liferings for the rich is good for business because giving away $700 billion to Bank of America, AIG, and Citibank was supposed to remove us from the recession which it didn't. Furthermore, spending $1 billion on brand new sports complexes while the owners gets 10-percent profits is good for the community, but assisting those on welfare isn't worth our tax dollars. Am I reading this right?


This ^ is unsupported opinion, lots of over-generalization and filled with assumptions.

I'm no Bush apologist but sheesh --

You are comparing Obama to someone you deem inept in order to prop him up and convince us to accept it.

Can you not see how absurd that is?

If the best you can do to make Obama look better is to compare him to someone you deem inferior, all the while expressing nothing more than generalizations and unsupported assumptions, well.....nuff said.
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Old 01-04-2011, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Barrington, IL area
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Bill Clinton got impeached for lying about Monica Lewinsky polishing his knob in the Oval Office when it had no bearing on the economy, nor was it nobody's business. That man balanced the federal budget, but that was irrelevent. George W. Bush took the equivalent of two years vacation the entire eight years he was in office. He lied about sending other people's children to die so Cheney could build an empire in the Middle East. Bush himself admitted on Meet The Press he couldn't find the link to Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attacks. Bush never found Osama Bin Laden like he promised, and he authorized torture at Guantanamo.

Barack Obama is a horrible President because he didn't pull out his magic wand and work up miracles overnight after he took office. It's all his fault deficit spending has gone wild, and he couldn't fix it even when Congress has given him hell since he's been in office. The national debt was irrelevant during the Bush Administration, yet now everyone us upset over deficit spending. Nevermind the fact that Obama ended the Iraq War Bush created, and he's now putting deadlines on our withdrawal from Afghanistan because he understands the price of these wars are ones neither we nor our children can afford. Forget about health care becoming more affordable for working class and poor people or the overturning of DADT. Disregard the 9/11 Health Benefits Bill, the START program, and the Food Safety Bill while we're at it.

It's considered socialism whenever we help the poor and middle class because they're there by choice. Spending money to build better schools, levees, dams, locks, roads, and bridges isn't cost-effective. Neither is extending unemployment because the blame lies on those out there unable to find jobs due to their lack of ambition rather than the ones who outsourced jobs overseas. Throwing out liferings for the rich is good for business because giving away $700 billion to Bank of America, AIG, and Citibank was supposed to remove us from the recession which it didn't. Furthermore, spending $1 billion on brand new sports complexes while the owners gets 10-percent profits is good for the community, but assisting those on welfare isn't worth our tax dollars. Am I reading this right?
Yes, you summed things up pretty well.
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