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Old 01-23-2011, 03:42 PM
 
Location: The Heartland
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I see Obama becoming more of a centrist and his ratings are climbing, he may even be re-elected if he stays there. Clinton moved to the center and he was re-elected. I do believe that they were forced to move there or loose their job but why not start there knowing the majority of the public can best cope somewhere in the middle.

Being centrist seems to be the sweet spot for politics. Government seems somewhat balanced to me right now so why doesn't everyone govern from the center or would that be too much compromise for the far ends?

I see the same thing with the talking heads, the far ends have a few followers but the majority of people seem to follow the ones who talk from the middle of the road.

Also, what do you believe a far-ender is on either side?

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Old 01-23-2011, 04:41 PM
 
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Most Americans are in the center. They are neither conservatives nor liberals. Consequently, to get elected, all politicians have to end up there.
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Old 01-23-2011, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Because the far left agenda he was pushing for the first 2 years proved to be highly unpopular.
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Old 01-23-2011, 04:44 PM
 
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He's been in the middle all along--sorry to disappoint you. It's just that folks on the other side were SO SURE he was something else (like a Kenyan, or a communist, or socialist, or a Muslim, or pretty much name whatever you find most personally upsetting) that they weren't paying attention.

Most Americans are pretty moderate. I am. He's a good fit for me.
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Old 01-23-2011, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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What is unusual about Obama, as opposed to Clinton and other, is that I really think he believes the central road. I was interested in his candidacy because he emphasized common ground and values most Americans share. My wife was a big John Edwards fan, and I never bought his "stick it to the man" style, as he was a very rich, well quaffed dude himself. We all know how that played out. I think he has wanted to build a consensus for a while, but very few republicans were having it.

It also seems that for purely strategic reasons he will have to track center to get anything done with the new house, and of course, to get reelected.

He is no socialist, however, I believe he strongly supports health care for all Americans, a commitment to new 21st century industries and infrastructure, and environmental protection. That is hardly super leftist, but you'd never know that by the rhetoric.
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Old 01-23-2011, 04:57 PM
 
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He's been in the middle all along--sorry to disappoint you. It's just that folks on the other side were SO SURE he was something else (like a Kenyan, or a communist, or socialist, or a Muslim, or pretty much name whatever you find most personally upsetting) that they weren't paying attention.

Most Americans are pretty moderate. I am. He's a good fit for me.
No doubt, he's been center/right from the beginning, if he keeps moving right he'll be a full on republican.
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Old 01-23-2011, 04:58 PM
 
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What is unusual about Obama, as opposed to Clinton and other, is that I really think he believes the central road. I was interested in his candidacy because he emphasized common ground and values most Americans share. My wife was a big John Edwards fan, and I never bought his "stick it to the man" style, as he was a very rich, well quaffed dude himself. We all know how that played out. I think he has wanted to build a consensus for a while, but very few republicans were having it.

It also seems that for purely strategic reasons he will have to track center to get anything done with the new house, and of course, to get reelected.

He is no socialist, however, I believe he strongly supports health care for all Americans, a commitment to new 21st century industries and infrastructure, and environmental protection. That is hardly super leftist, but you'd never know that by the rhetoric.
By old standards? He's essentially a moderate republican, which is what I was before we disappeared from the R party. Health care reform isn't a "left" issue--what we have now is pretty much exactly what the republicans developed as a response to Hilary care during the Clinton administration. The hype against it by the current batch of republicans was just manufactured hysteria to tear down the other side--not because they didn't think it was a decent plan, or that it wouldn't work. They just didn't want to let the Dems win it. Thats sad.
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Old 01-23-2011, 05:01 PM
 
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Most Americans are in the center. They are neither conservatives nor liberals. Consequently, to get elected, all politicians have to end up there.
I agree but as I asked before, why start at one end or another? Why not just govern from the middle where most people are all the time? I think a vast majority of even the far-enders can live there too.
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Old 01-23-2011, 05:02 PM
 
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Because the far left agenda he was pushing for the first 2 years proved to be highly unpopular.
Doesn't it always? Didn't Clinton do the same thing and then move to the middle?
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Old 01-23-2011, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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I see Obama becoming more of a centrist and his ratings are climbing, he may even be re-elected if he stays there. Clinton moved to the center and he was re-elected. I do believe that they were forced to move there or loose their job but why not start there knowing the majority of the public can best cope somewhere in the middle.

Being centrist seems to be the sweet spot for politics. Government seems somewhat balanced to me right now so why doesn't everyone govern from the center or would that be too much compromise for the far ends?

I see the same thing with the talking heads, the far ends have a few followers but the majority of people seem to follow the ones who talk from the middle of the road.

Also, what do you believe a far-ender is on either side?
He had to move more toward the middle because the majority of the nation is conservative.

For Obama to rely on the fashion of the day would be political suicide .. getting a bunch of 18 - 20 year olds who don't really understand the process and were never meaning to follow through on agenda anyway, to vote you into office is one thing .. getting the job done is quite another thing entirely.

Obama won election because having a black President was chic .. the order of the day .. nevermind that there might have to be a follow-up on agenda, because being chic and listening to the Hip-Hop is where any agenda would end at that age group.

We have to remember .. Obama won by about 6% .. and that 6% consisted primarily of those who would never give any real thought yet, to their futures.
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