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Old 09-14-2010, 08:39 PM
 
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Japan Companies Join U.S. in Hoarding Cash on Europe (Update2) - BusinessWeek

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Non-financial companies held 202.7 trillion yen ($2.2 trillion) in currency and deposits as of March 31, the most since quarterly data began in 1997, the Bank of Japan said in Tokyo today. Households’ financial assets climbed 3.1 percent from a year ago to 1,453 trillion yen.
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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I sincerely doubt that corporations are sitting on "one trillion dollars".

Why?
FRB: H.6 Release--Money Stock and Debt Measures--September 9, 2010
M1 figures for July 2010 = 1718.4 billions.
M1 consists of (1) currency outside the U.S. Treasury, Federal Reserve Banks, and the vaults of depository institutions; (2) traveler's checks of nonbank issuers; (3) demand deposits at commercial banks (excluding those amounts held by depository institutions, the U.S. government, and foreign banks and official institutions) less cash items in the process of collection and Federal Reserve float; and (4) other checkable deposits (OCDs), consisting of negotiable order of withdrawal (NOW) and automatic transfer service (ATS) accounts at depository institutions, credit union share draft accounts, and demand deposits at thrift institutions. Seasonally adjusted M1 is constructed by summing currency, traveler's checks, demand deposits, and OCDs, each seasonally adjusted separately.
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There may be electronic account entries that tally into the trillions, but when it comes down to the actual "dollar bills".. ... uh oh!
Better not try to withdraw any.
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:50 PM
 
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Semantics. Of course, on the face, they're sitting on mounds and mounds of paper debt. The message for real change isn't catching on. We're accustomed to what the dollar actually stands for. It'll take an act of God to change that.
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Old 09-15-2010, 05:32 AM
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I sincerely doubt that corporations are sitting on "one trillion dollars".
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There may be electronic account entries that tally into the trillions, but when it comes down to the actual "dollar bills".. ... uh oh!
Better not try to withdraw any.
"Cash" on a balance sheet is really cash plus marketable securities. Nobody wants gobs of cash sitting around earning zero interest when they could be using it for acquisitions or stock buy-backs...
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Old 09-15-2010, 07:30 AM
 
Location: State of Superior
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If some of these Capital Goods purchases are just because they have the credit to buy....then at some point repos would be rampant...like in the housing industry. We have very few repos, compared to machinery sales. Our average machine we deliver costs upward of 500,000, and many are over 1-2M. The requests just keep coming....this AM we are being hit hard again, and finding drivers is becoming a problem. There are fewer trucks out there than there was in 07. No we are not back to those levels of business , but its getting there, for some reason...
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Old 09-15-2010, 08:18 AM
 
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Corporations Hoarding Cash, Not Hiring – Stockpile Mountain of Cash.

This is why corporations should get more tax relief, so they can hoard more cash for themselves.
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Old 09-15-2010, 08:29 AM
 
Location: State of Superior
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Corporations Hoarding Cash, Not Hiring – Stockpile Mountain of Cash.

This is why corporations should get more tax relief, so they can hoard more cash for themselves.
No , its more incentives they need to buy machinery and equipment. Tax credits should only be for purchases. We need to see some inflation, the problem thats been lacking for a long while now. ( And I don't mean in housing and other bubbles). Real world purchases that will provide jobs at some point down the line as the industry heats up.... Nothing more stimulating than knowing tomorrow , it will cost more...buy today !
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Old 09-15-2010, 02:09 PM
 
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"Cash" on a balance sheet is really cash plus marketable securities. Nobody wants gobs of cash sitting around earning zero interest when they could be using it for acquisitions or stock buy-backs...
That's the problem...
There is a sum of outstanding obligations, accounts receivable, and balances due.
And then there is that pesky small sum* of actual "dollar bills".

Not unlike musical chairs, when the music stops, all the folks won't get their "funny munny" back.

The "run" that will inevitably come, will probably be on the magnitude of 3000:1 to 4000:1, in terms of loss (or deflation).

To compound that problem, "dollar bills" have no par value, at law. So they do not "pay" debt. Merely discharge obligations between bankrupted creditors / debtors.

Read the law. It will depress you.

[BTW - usury is mathematically impossible to pay in a finite money token system. Has been denounced for over 3500 years or so.]

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Federal Reserve:
July 2010 M1 = 1718.4 billions M2 = 8610.9 billions

U.S. National Debt Clock
Public debt (15/09/2010) $ 13,443,978,767,013.07
The estimated population of the United States is 309,119,103
Percapita share of this debt is $43,491.26.

M1 / percapita = $5,557.73
M2 / percapita = $27,856.25

Now I may not be a math wizard, but I think one might have a small problem if the public debt was "due on demand".

And doesn't Title 12 USC Sec. 411 define a dollar bill as an obligation of the U.S.? And said notes are borrowed, at usury, into existence?
Amazing that interest could make the public debt be 56% larger than the total sum of paper dollar bills in circulation.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time
U.S. Total Debt = 53.919 Trillion.

Now how in heaven's name can such a debt be paid?
I guess someone is going to be forced into default, and lose their pledged property to the creditor.

WHOOOO-EEEEEEE, are we going to crash HARD.

I forgot to mention that "dollar bills" are not dollars.
By law, a dollar is a gold coin (silver was demonetized in 1873). Pre-bankruptcy evaluation would place the national debt at roughly 650 billion ounces of gold.
Problem #1, at current market price (1267/ounce), that much gold would cost $823550000000000 (823 trillion dollar bills).
Problem #2, estimated world wide supply of above ground gold is 5.3 billion ounces.
Problem #3, Fort Knox depository holds 147.4 million ounces (est). Which computes to 0.47 ounce percapita, or $9.53, pursuant to the Coinage Act of 1792, et seq.

That's all there is, folks.
We're [expletive deleted]!
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:30 AM
 
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Another mass layoff and they doubled their profit over the first quarter. There are alot of people with jobs who should be worried, its going to get worse.

Courier Electronic Edition - Findlay, Ohio: ASSOCIATED PRESS NEWS (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_EARNS_FEDEX?SITE=OHFIN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DE FAULT - broken link)
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Old 09-17-2010, 07:15 AM
 
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Foreclosures are up in August as well...
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