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Cute. I prefer the term RINO neo-con-munist, since they borrowed the methodology of nation building and spreading their utopian form of government from the Soviets.
That is why you stick with conservate or liberal. Seems like a mess of a word with no exact meaning anyone can agree apon.
Of course it is easier, because it doesn't require one to think any deeper than yes or no, good and evil, right and wrong, this and that. Its absolutism and this country is plagued by it.
We see the world as a 0 or a 1, but in truth, there is a spectrum in life that is more akin to scale of 1 to 100 and things residing between the two somewhere. Perhaps the end point is an absolute answer, but arriving at these conclusions generally mean wading through a sea of gray.
Ron Paul is more of a Paleoconservative with Libertarian leanings and is very clearly different that Sarah Palin or Lindsey Graham in their views, so just lumping these people as "Conservative" is wholly inaccurate.
This type of absolutism might as well say, "All Republicans believe and act this way". I'm sure you know this just isn't even remotely true.
Of course it is easier to just say, "I believe" and leave it at that.
That is why you stick with conservate or liberal. Seems like a mess of a word with no exact meaning anyone can agree apon.
Neo-con-munism/neo-bolshevism generally involves wanting to directly interfere in other countries, whether it be through negotiated deals or military might. Reagan with Grenada and Nicaragua, Carter with Iran, Bush with Iraq, etc. None of these three folks where conservative (in terms of foreign policy)
And what other Neocons besides Bill Kristol is happy with Mubarek leaving?
"Neoconservatives should embrace their liberal roots" - William Kristol at the 2004 Democratic National Committee primary celebration, live on air.
When the Neoconservatives start abandoning ship, I think Mubarak should consider hopping a flight to his Beverly Hills mansion while the going is good. Perhaps he can campaign with Lindsey Graham?
As you probably know there is a split among conservatives on the Egypt situation, Neo-Cons want Mubarak out ASAP. Traditional conservatives do not want him replaced with an Islamic government such as the Muslim Brotherhood. I consider myself in the second group as I strongly oppose Sharia states.
What I find most interesting is that many of the same liberals who have been tossing around the term "neo-conservative" for years now (having no idea what it actually means) are actually neoconservatives themsevles...with their excitement of regime change and giving Democracy to the Egyptian people...this is 100% neo-con thinking all the way.
As far as I know, Egyptians don't give a camel's ar$e of what cons and neo-cons want.
It will be a theocracy, deal with it and get over it
Of course it is easier, because it doesn't require one to think any deeper than yes or no, good and evil, right and wrong, this and that. Its absolutism and this country is plagued by it.
We see the world as a 0 or a 1, but in truth, there is a spectrum in life that is more akin to scale of 1 to 100 and things residing between the two somewhere. Perhaps the end point is an absolute answer, but arriving at these conclusions generally mean wading through a sea of gray.
Ron Paul is more of a Paleoconservative with Libertarian leanings and is very clearly different that Sarah Palin or Lindsey Graham in their views, so just lumping these people as "Conservative" is wholly inaccurate.
This type of absolutism might as well say, "All Republicans believe and act this way". I'm sure you know this just isn't even remotely true.
Of course it is easier to just say, "I believe" and leave it at that.
Not really because a lot of the other side names are even set in stone with one meaning.
Ron Paul is a Libertarian, that is a fiscal conservative that leans Democrat on the social issues (and they love their drugs)
In general libertarians are NOT conservative as a description.
Republican is party and most certainly it does not describe a conservative person.
George Bush, John (please retire) McCain and others are populist, not conservatives though they lean as fiscal conservatives some time.
John Kennedy was a fiscal conservative. He and Ronald Reagan shared the same views on taxes. Don't forget Ronald Reagan a conservative was a Democrat who said, "I didn't leave the party, the party left me".
In any case, the best view is the leader stays in place till normal elections so proper groups who are NOT the Muslim brotherhood can form and win.
We don't need Egypt to become Iran #2.
Not really because a lot of the other side names are even set in stone with one meaning.
Ron Paul is a Libertarian, that is a fiscal conservative that leans Democrat on the social issues (and they love their drugs)
In general libertarians are NOT conservative as a description.
Republican is party and most certainly it does not describe a conservative person.
George Bush, John (please retire) McCain and others are populist, not conservatives though they lean as fiscal conservatives some time.
John Kennedy was a fiscal conservative. He and Ronald Reagan shared the same views on taxes. Don't forget Ronald Reagan a conservative was a Democrat who said, "I didn't leave the party, the party left me".
In any case, the best view is the leader stays in place till normal elections so proper groups who are NOT the Muslim brotherhood can form and win.
We don't need Egypt to become Iran #2.
See post #24
You are certainly free to believe that "Conservative" or "Liberal" are terms that are written in stone and "mean this", but in your own words in this post you are making distinctions about how this person was a little of this while at the same time being a little of that. There are no absolutes in the terms Conservative or Liberal, as is indicated by my previous posts and is evidenced by the corresponding links.
In any case, the best view is the leader stays in place till normal elections so proper groups who are NOT the Muslim brotherhood can form and win.
We don't need Egypt to become Iran #2.
We may want to see a secular Egypt but it won’t happen considering that even a lot of Americans cringe at the sound of anything “secular”. Religion is perhaps the most polarizing aspect of any society and politicians rarely shy away from taking advantage of it. Just look at home. How many do you see clinging onto America as a Christian country? How many feel threatened by the sound of a secular America?
Fortunately in America, the voices that screamed “Jefferson is an infidel” in (1800), “Catholicism is an abomination” (late 19th century), “FDR is a Jew” (1930s) and “Obama is a Muslim” remain a minority. In countries like Egypt, however, illiteracy and economic situation is unlikely to help.
George Bush, John (please retire) McCain and others are populist, not conservatives though they lean as fiscal conservatives some time.
George Bush a FISCAL conservative? LOL.
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We don't need Egypt to become Iran #2.
If it happens, it happens. Nothing we can do about it.
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