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What this thread is really asking: Is Capitalism going to be able to break down the walls of racism and culturalism? Is Capitalism going to be able to change how people have historically dealt with those who are different from them?
I would argue that in the case of the very unique form of racism that was developed in the U.S. was spawned by a nascent capitalist society. It was weaned and nurtured because it was profitable before, during and after slavery. While there many social manifestations of American racism, the key facet was economic. Ethnic minorities, African Americans, Mexicans and Chinese in particular were a commodity and a too of the profit motive. So, I would argue that any abatement in America's form of racism came in spite of capitalism not because of it.
Historically people have stuck together with their "own kind" because they felt it was in their own best interests.
How so? What kind of interests are we talking about? As the Jeffersonian quote I posted earlier suggests, the early settlers in this country were intolerant of others on various grounds . How do you tie that intolerance to their “best interests”?
I'd make a terrible Stormfronter since I value intelligence first.
Nah, actually, you'd - excuse me, you - fit right in.
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My closest friends are diverse by race, but all quite similar by IQ.
Did you administer the tests yourself?
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Your problem is you believe that PC BS should trump fact and reason. You want diversity, and only want to acknowledge positive traits. When a culture/group has poor values, then they will fail in America.
There is no racial characteristic to failure. Or to success, for that matter.
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Hence the terrible results from black people, and the stunning results from Asians.
Tell that to my two Mandarin-speaking black children.
Actually, Cleopatra in modern fiction is touted as beautiful. The images we have of her, and the literature of the time do not say she was beautiful. They talk of her intelligence, and her education, and her voice. She evidently had a very compelling voice.
Inbreeding leads to a genetic pool that is increasingly limited, and where various abnormalities become concentrated. For instance, the royal families of Europe were guilty of having become inbred by the beginning of the 20th century, and several royal houses suffered genetic problems as a result of that inbreeding. As an odds game, the odds for problems increase as the genetic pool becomes smaller. It's genetics, with a lot of variables, so there is no guarantee that an individual born of a limited genetic pool is going to have problems, but the odds increase that there will be problems as the genetic pool becomes smaller and smaller.
True. I sometimes wonder what the royals they don't let us see look/act like?
I would argue that in the case of the very unique form of racism that was developed in the U.S. was spawned by a nascent capitalist society. It was weaned and nurtured because it was profitable before, during and after slavery. While there many social manifestations of American racism, the key facet was economic. Ethnic minorities, African Americans, Mexicans and Chinese in particular were a commodity and a too of the profit motive. So, I would argue that any abatement in America's form of racism came in spite of capitalism not because of it.
If you read any literature that Europeans write about other races, you will see they were VERY racist before they had even discovered America. Racism wasn't "spawned" in the U.S., that's ridiculous. The Founding Fathers and their ancestors were racist before they set foot in America.
Capitalism thwarts racism because Capitists are opportunists. Illegals from south of the border aren't paid really low wages because they're Latino, they're paid low wages because that's what they'll work for. If Canadians would work for the same wages, corporations would hire them as well. In Capitalism, no one cares about your race or where you come from, so long as you're the person that gets the job done most efficiently.
How so? What kind of interests are we talking about? As the Jeffersonian quote I posted earlier suggests, the early settlers in this country were intolerant of others on various grounds . How do you tie that intolerance to their “best interests”?
You have to look at it from the early Settlers point of view. They were super-religious and felt that anyone who didn't share their views was going straight to hell and if they befriended these other people, the Settlers would go straight to hell, too. It might be hard to imagine now, but the early Settlers really, really believed this. So, in their minds, it was in their own best interests to either force others to practice and believe the same way they did, or to shun that person.
If you read any literature that Europeans write about other races, you will see they were VERY racist before they had even discovered America. Racism wasn't "spawned" in the U.S., that's ridiculous. The Founding Fathers and their ancestors were racist before they set foot in America.
Capitalism thwarts racism because Capitists are opportunists. Illegals from south of the border aren't paid really low wages because they're Latino, they're paid low wages because that's what they'll work for. If Canadians would work for the same wages, corporations would hire them as well. In Capitalism, no one cares about your race or where you come from, so long as you're the person that gets the job done most efficiently.
Capitalism isn't free from racism. Ideally it is, in practice it's not entirely free from human notions and stereotypes. Hence why minorities are often paid less than their White counterparts for the same job. Or how minority sounding names are less likely to be asked for an interview than more "Anglo" sounding names. Unfortunately, the "blind hand" doesn't take a blind eye or ear as it were.
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