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There is room for compromise here. People of good will, if they had the courage to stand up and engage in sensible governance (which, in case anyone has forgetten, is what they are being paid to do), could come up with a solution that would address the fiscal crisis while making it possible for the various constitutences to share the necessary sacrifices. But no. One side vindictively stonewalls while the other side engages in cowardly theatrics by running away. It is becoming increasingly clear that America is governed by knaves, elected by fools.
Well of course the thugs who have over run the capital should be allowed to continue. These are violent people, with no respect for democracy. When the law is passed, it would be prudent to plan for union rioting in the street.
Thanks for the insult. I do not belong to a union, never have. I've also never had a "job for life".
You surely know that nurses have exactly no flexibility to set their own hours. The only way to have time to meet your kids' and your own needs is to work part time. DH has had a lot more flexibility as an engineer. Teachers do not have that flexibility, either. They have to teach when school is in session.
That was certainly not meant as an insult. I have the highest respect for nurses. During that massive snowstorm that hit Chicago a couple of weeks ago, the nurses had to commandeer my office to sleep in and had set up blow up mattresses all over my office space because they were required to stay at the hospital. Nursing is different from other professions. However, there are so many different types of nursing jobs that one could find a job to suit their family's needs. You can do home health, traveling nursing, weekender positions (where you work Saturday and Sunday in 2 twelve hour shifts but get paid as a 40 hour/week employee), work as a school nurse, or work for drug companies or insurance companies. If you can't find a position that gives you the flexibility to meet your needs then it isn't because of lack of opportunity in your profession.
There is room for compromise here. People of good will, if they had the courage to stand up and engage in sensible governance (which, in case anyone has forgetten, is what they are being paid to do), could come up with a solution that would address the fiscal crisis while making it possible for the various constitutences to share the necessary sacrifices. But no. One side vindictively stonewalls while the other side engages in cowardly theatrics by running away. It is becoming increasingly clear that America is governed by knaves, elected by fools.
How are the WI Republicans being vindictive and stonewalling exactly? Please support your arguement with links.
I think there is some projection in that statement as the vindictive behavior is shutting down schools and walking out on the job because you don't think you'll like the outcome of a vote. The vindictive behavior is refusing to contriubute toward your own health insurance and pensions thus causing thousands of others to lose their jobs. The vindictive behavior is shutting down the democratic process by walking out on your sworn duties to do your job impartially and to the best of your ability in keeping with the WI and US Constitutions.
It is not as though this is any surprise. This is the very platform the Gov. ran on to get elected and the people voted that they wanted their state fiscal problems brought under control.
The state is broke. What part of this dont you all get. Do you think they can continue to just go deeper in debt?
I get that is the Obama way but Wisconsin can NOT just print more money to pay people.
Do you understand why they have a budget shortfall? In January, they had a 120 million budget SURPLUS in Wisconsin, and then the governor gave 140 million away in tax breaks to big companies. Now, he's not only trying to take the SHORTFALL HE CREATED out on the public workers, but he's also included provisions that would completely shut the unions down--they would no longer have the right to collectively bargain. He's refusing to even meet with the unions to discuss ways that they could cut the budget to make it work for everyone
None of this is about a budget shortfall. He did this intentionally--it's about breaking unions, because they tend to give their financial contributions to democrats. Unions support democrats because they tend to support policies that benefit middle class families and small business. Those donations are raised from INDIVIDUAL UNION MEMBERS who voluntarily contribute to Union political action committees. In the last election, out of the top 10 major contributors, 7 were corporate funders to republicans, and 3 were labor unions. That's why you're seeing up to 15,000 people a day in Madison protesting. It's spreading to every major city across Wisconsin, and beginning to start nationally.
Do you want to live in a country where the only candidates with the funding it takes to win an election are those funded by big business? I can't believe some of you in the tea party, even if you disagree with the democratic party, wouldn't see this as outrageous. I was a republican for 30 years of my life, but I grew up in a family of teachers, and I have a strong sense of fairness. This is wrong. Lots of people think it's wrong, and they're taking to the streets to make their point.
The R party has gone too far this time, and I'm ashamed of them. They accomplished one thing though--they've stirred up mass anger that isn't going to go away any time soon.
Well of course the thugs who have over run the capital should be allowed to continue. These are violent people, with no respect for democracy. When the law is passed, it would be prudent to plan for union rioting in the street.
When the tea party showed up with 100 - 1000 people, it was a democratic, patriotic movement. When voters in Wisconsin show up at what they're estimating at 15,000 a day in Madison alone, and protesting in every other major city in the state, they become VIOLENT THUGS? What a bunch of hypocrites...
When the tea party showed up with 100 - 1000 people, it was a democratic, patriotic movement. When voters in Wisconsin show up at what they're estimating at 15,000 a day in Madison alone, and protesting in every other major city in the state, they become VIOLENT THUGS? What a bunch of hypocrites...
When the tea party showed up with 100 - 1000 people, it was a democratic, patriotic movement. When voters in Wisconsin show up at what they're estimating at 15,000 a day in Madison alone, and protesting in every other major city in the state, they become VIOLENT THUGS? What a bunch of hypocrites...
A Madison protestor charged the state chambers and was arrested.
Hundreds of protestors at the state house left behind piles of litters and signs (some mis-spelled).
Elected state legislators walked out on their job and their sworn oath to all their constituents.
Madison and Racine teachers faked "blue flu" in such numbers that the schools had to be closed (3 days thus far in Madison, 1 day in Racine).
How does one draw a parellel between that and the Tea Party licensed and scheduled event on 8/28 exactly?
A Madison protestor charged the state chambers and was arrested. Hundreds of protestors at the state house left behind piles of litters and signs (some mis-spelled).
Elected state legislators walked out on their job and their sworn oath.
Madison and Racine teachers faked "blue flu" in such numbers that the schools had to be closed (3 days thus far in Madison, 1 day in Racine).
How does one draw a parellel between that and the Tea Party licensed and scheduled event on 8/28 exactly?
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