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Old 02-22-2011, 03:10 PM
 
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Like the two journalists who got jailed for crossing into N Korea...

Like the hikers who "accidentally" crossed into Iran...

Like the US "tourists" who go to Mexico and get shot...

If you go to stupid places and act stupidly, expect to suffer stupid consequences. Those 4 "sailors" would still be sipping drinks on the poop deck if they hadn't sailed into what everyone on earth knows are pirate-infested waters.
Indeed. But then you are suggesting personal responsibility and that just isn't in the DNA from many on the left coast.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:14 PM
 
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Indeed. But then you are suggesting personal responsibility and that just isn't in the DNA from many on the left coast.

And you know this how, exactly?
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:20 PM
 
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And you know this how, exactly?
Their politics. Progressives place responsibility in collectivism and a large central government rather than personal responsibility and limited government. I would not be surprised if the victims from Seattle were friends/associates of my Progressive family members there. They probably belonged to the same yacht club.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:42 PM
 
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If some yacht owner is dumb enough to sale near Somalia after all the press about pirates then why should tax payer dollars be used to rescue them? It's over seas, they were warned and should have known better, so it's buyer beware as far as I'm concerned.

ya.!! and peaople with a big boat like that cant tell me that they did not know.. anybody willing to sail through, or even near somalia is a nut job.. those pirates are geting better equiped for longer distances from shore..
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:54 PM
 
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Their politics. Progressives place responsibility in collectivism and a large central government rather than personal responsibility and limited government. I would not be surprised if the victims from Seattle were friends/associates of my Progressive family members there. They probably belonged to the same yacht club.
While personal responsibility is an important component of any collective society, the reliance on the collective has been the sole agent for the survival of the human species.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:57 PM
 
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While personal responsibility is an important component of any collective society, the reliance on the collective has been the sole agent for the survival of the human species.
And this excuses the four now dead from personal responsibility how?
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:59 PM
 
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And this excuses the four now dead from personal responsibility how?
Well I'm dying to know what personal responsibility a group of sailors in international waters should have accepted when confronted by 19 armed pirates?

Or is this one of those threads where we bemoan women who because of the way they dressed or behaved deserved to be raped, or how some shop keeper who opened a business in a high crime area deserved to be shot dead during a robbery? Or perhaps I am just missing your "point" completely.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:28 PM
 
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The disrespect here for the deceased is sickening.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:52 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake;...... restrictions on firearms ownership, preventing them from doing so. [B
This forces sailors to remain defenseless or become criminals themselves[/b].
Totally insane
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:55 PM
 
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The disrespect here for the deceased is sickening.
AMEN.

Anyone who has to let their politics determine their true feelings towards murdered innocents, by a bunch of unholy savages, are some really f'd up individuals
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