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I am a volunteer with a local Rape and Sexual Assault organization that provide victim advocacy to victims at the hospital.
When I am with a victim I go with the view that the rape actually happened. I do not go there to investigate. That is not my job. All I do is give support and information on our program for the victim later go and get counseling, advice on court issue should the case go to court, etc.
When I was attending the course I asked what was the frequency of, mostly women, making a false claim. I could tell the answer from the instructor was very biased would not want to hear or discuss the issue much.
Before I retired from the Army I was also a volunteer doing the same thing with Soldiers. When I attended the same course but in the Army an FBI agent (female) gave us a briefing and she said the false claims are frequent. I asked her if she had any data she said she did not have it at the moment. I never got to see her again but I still wonder about that. Later I read an article online of a case of a female Soldier that claimed she got raped. However, the story has some interesting points in the case that made people wonder whether she was raped or not.
In the readers comments one individual said he did not believe she was raped and claimed he was a previous military policeman and that the FBI had data that support his claim that false accusations are more common than people believe.
What do you think?
What have you heard or seen in your community?
I do not believe it is the majority when that happens but is it that frequent that people think?
I am a former Army MP as is my husband (he was MPI). While there have been a few false claim (pretty obvious that it was the morning after regret) there were rape claims that were so obviously true.
I know of a female MP (she was a friend from Basic) who was raped in her barracks room by the CQ. She was an E-3 while he was an E-6.
She attempted to report it but it was made plain to her that she would "ruin" the CQ's life, tear apart his marriage and cost him his career and family.
She withdrew her claim but she was terribly fearful and refused to be in her room alone. She missed her period and was pregnant. She was called, wh*re, sl*t and every other name possible. She took her service revolver and while on duty shot herself in the head.
She did not immediately die, in fact she ws on life support until her family could come and take her off of it. They had to fly from Indiana to Germany. It was horrible and left a large scar on the females MPs in her Unit and those of us in Germany from our Basic Training Unit.
This was in 1986 and I can still see her young, earnest face. Are there false claims? Yes, but there are lives ruined due to rape.
I am a former Army MP as is my husband (he was MPI). While there have been a few false claim (pretty obvious that it was the morning after regret) there were rape claims that were so obviously true.
I know of a female MP (she was a friend from Basic) who was raped in her barracks room by the CQ. She was an E-3 while he was an E-6.
She attempted to report it but it was made plain to her that she would "ruin" the CQ's life, tear apart his marriage and cost him his career and family.
She withdrew her claim but she was terribly fearful and refused to be in her room alone. She missed her period and was pregnant. She was called, wh*re, sl*t and every other name possible. She took her service revolver and while on duty shot herself in the head.
She did not immediately die, in fact she ws on life support until her family could come and take her off of it. They had to fly from Indiana to Germany. It was horrible and left a large scar on the females MPs in her Unit and those of us in Germany from our Basic Training Unit.
This was in 1986 and I can still see her young, earnest face. Are there false claims? Yes, but there are lives ruined due to rape.
Thanks for your input. I am aware rape is out there. I attend to many of them. I am just curious how pervasive are the false claims also, take care.
I know for fact this does go on with the false police reports on rape, have many many police as friends, and though it is not discussed too often, it happens more then we think. It really makes me upset, for those who really have been raped. To make a false claim as this, is not only wrong, but some of the time, they name an accuser, and this is so wrong, and could make things miserable for the wrongly accused. Some times i understand it is a young teen, naming a ex, which is still wrong, because they broke up. And then there are those who have been raped, and so afrarid to come forward and make the report.
I think there's more rape victims who never report the rape or seek help than there are those who are lying about being raped.
Scales of justice, if there is any such thing practiced as things are today, I agree. Ratio? We've seen enough fuzzy math to last a lifetime. They fuzz it deliberately to make sure no one stands in truth.
Tawana Brawley is not someone I support. I do not hate her because she's black or female. She was a very troubled girl. She couldn't articulate her trouble so she found something, a banner, to hide behind, to enlist community support. Her lies came at the expense of every real victim of rape, and everyone in the community who upholds a standard of common decency as a community. How this becomes justification in the unscrupulous male mind to let rapists off the hook betrays a lack of character. Deny there's any such thing is so much more pleasant a delusion to cling to.
Someday, gentlemen, you'll have to explain why preying upon anyone sexually and building a lifestyle habit out of it is your new version of normal "adult healthy male".
I hate that the people who falsely cry 'rape' create problems and skepticism for those who truly suffered a rape.
I hate that parents drag their kids in to see us and claim 'rape' when we know their 16 year-old daughter totally snuck out to have consensual sex with that 19 year-old. The whole time, the girl is rolling her eyes. That again kind of discredits the whole system.
The latter is what I see a lot of that people wouldn't realize.
I hate that the people who falsely cry 'rape' create problems and skepticism for those who truly suffered a rape.
I hate that parents drag their kids in to see us and claim 'rape' when we know their 16 year-old daughter totally snuck out to have consensual sex with that 19 year-old. The whole time, the girl is rolling her eyes. That again kind of discredits the whole system.
The latter is what I see a lot of that people wouldn't realize.
I ask you why the parents of that 16 yr old daughter aren't in the hot seat sure as Brawleys parents should have been. Why do those injustices go dismissed in public opinion & in the courts?
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