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Old 02-22-2011, 03:18 PM
 
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So was I, but things happen. I got drunk at bars and made a fool of myself, others slack off, and still others haven't found their purpose or way. I find it hard to hold those sorts of things against somebody in their mid-40s.

There are intelligent people without college degrees and unintelligent people with them. While a college degree may be a sort of general indicator of intelligence, it's by no means conclusive either way, and it's important to look at each person on their own merits.
I get the point your making about Walker here, but I don't agree with it.
I don't know if a agree that a degree is a "general indicator of intelligence"
It may be a better indicator of financial status and whether or not your parents have degrees.
I know some pretty questionably intelligent people holding degrees, and some very smart people without them.

Many independent and self-motiviated people believe they don't need one and are so confident (arrogant?) that they believe they don't need one.

Many people need degrees to move up, to validate their worth, and to find a good job. Other people don't need it. A college degree in many respects is more about status than true proof of learning or intelligence.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:18 PM
 
Location: NC
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lol, at equating college with intelligence. Josef Goerbels had a doctorate in history and Einstein didn't make it past 5th grade. There's no correlation whatsoever between intelligence and a college degree.

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Actually, that's not true either. There certainly is a "correlation."

It's just not the relevant one for this discussion.

Oh, and btw Einstein did make it past the 5th grade. He had a PhD.
Those are Right wing 'facts' for you. Never let the truth (Einstein's doctorate from the University of Zurich) get in the way of the point you are trying to make.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:22 PM
 
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Many of the very good legislators have college degrees and so do the many of the horrible ones, so it doesn't seem that the degree is the best way to differentiate among them or to predict performance.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:25 PM
 
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Well i think we pretty much all agreed that the original topic of this post is without merit. An unusual occurence on CD forum.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:26 PM
 
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Look where obama graduated from....and look at the mess he is making...
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:29 PM
 
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Those are Right wing 'facts' for you. Never let the truth (Einstein's doctorate from the University of Zurich) get in the way of the point you are trying to make.
Intellectual honesty would dictate that you differentiate between the many honorary degrees given to Einstein vs. formally earned through classwork at a University. Regardless of my respect for Einstein's scientific accomplishments, politically speaking he was a globalist.

Perhaps we could keep this on topic instead of deflecting? A comparison of Einstein vs. Walker's academic credentials are irrelevant to Walker's qualifications as Gov. of WI.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Well i think we pretty much all agreed that the original topic of this post is without merit. An unusual occurence on CD forum.
How do you figure that?
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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This is the person that Wisconsin chose to lead their state. A guy who did not graduate college and at best carried a C average. Really, this is the person you chose.

What happened to that state?
Some years ago, Californians chose Ronald Reagan to be their governor. He was a washed up actor, a former union leader and a Democrat. But he didn't remain any of those things for long. Mainly because a concept like "principles" was completely alien to him. If that man could be elected Governor (let alone President), then Scott Walker is a mere piker.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:45 PM
 
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How do you figure that?
I didn't "figure" anything. I read the posts. And most people dismissed the OPs assertion that since Scott walker couldn't (didn't) graduate college that he is unfit to represent the state of Wisconsin. Even the OP has backed down from his original assertion.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:46 PM
 
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Graduating with a degree from college requires discipline, hard work, dedication, self-sacrifice, intelligence, resourcefulness.... you know all those traits that show character.
Really?

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