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Old 02-23-2011, 10:09 PM
 
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Columbia University Professor Jeffrey Sachs sat down with Lawrence O'Donnell to discuss the coordinated efforts by Republican governors to help billionaires like the Koch brothers deal a final blow to unions and the working class in America.

O’DONNELL: And why would the Kochs care about a little union question in a state like Wisconsin?

SACHS: Well what they’re doing, they have business in Wisconsin. They have polluting industries all over this country. They have bought up all the Congress on the Energy Committees in the House and the Senate on the Republican side to make sure we never do anything about the coal industry, about oil, about our dependence on imported oil, on climate.

They have bought everything they can in politics. They’re making sure they never have to pay a tax, they never have to do any environmental control.
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What happened to your hatred of the bankers and Wall Street CEO's ?
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:21 PM
 
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What happened to your hatred of the bankers and Wall Street CEO's ?
...and the price of tea in China?
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:23 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Columbia University Professor Jeffrey Sachs sat down with Lawrence O'Donnell to discuss the coordinated efforts by Republican governors to help billionaires like the Koch brothers deal a final blow to unions and the working class in America.
Oh good grief. You all just don't get it, do you?

TAXPAYERS are sick and tired of footing the bill for public employees' lavish salaries plus benefits via ever-increasing sky high property tax bills.

Cut the union-issued talking points crap and don't even try to portray the public employee unions as "the working class."

That "working class" actually consists of millions of taxpayers who are robbed at gunpoint by the employee public unions and their co-conspirator elected officials to pay for their overly generous salaries and benefits via property taxes, etc., confiscated from "the working class."

Unions are making a HUGE mistake in portraying themselves as victimized workers. The TAXPAYERS are much more likely to see themselves as the victims in this dispute. TAXPAYERS are the ones who have to pay through the nose for those public employees' salaries and benefits. They are broke. What about that do you not get?!?
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:27 PM
 
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Oh good grief. You all just don't get it, do you?

TAXPAYERS are sick and tired of footing the bill for public employees' lavish salaries plus benefits via ever-increasing sky high property tax bills.

Cut the union-issued talking points crap and don't even try to portray the public employee unions as "the working class."

That "working class" actually consists of millions of taxpayers who are robbed at gunpoint by the employee public unions and their co-conspirator elected officials to pay for their overly generous salaries and benefits via property taxes, etc., confiscated from "the working class."

Unions are making a HUGE mistake in portraying themselves as victimized workers. The TAXPAYERS are much more likely to see themselves as the victims in this dispute. TAXPAYERS are the ones who have to pay through the nose for those public employees' salaries and benefits. They are broke. What about that do you not get?!?

It's "The Shock Doctrine" and you have bought into it hook, line and sinker.

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Old 02-23-2011, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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Oh good grief. You all just don't get it, do you?

TAXPAYERS are sick and tired of footing the bill for public employees' lavish salaries plus benefits via ever-increasing sky high property tax bills.

Cut the union-issued talking points crap and don't even try to portray the public employee unions as "the working class."

That "working class" actually consists of millions of taxpayers who are robbed at gunpoint by the employee public unions and their co-conspirator elected officials to pay for their overly generous salaries and benefits via property taxes, etc., confiscated from "the working class."

Unions are making a HUGE mistake in portraying themselves as victimized workers. The TAXPAYERS are much more likely to see themselves as the victims in this dispute. TAXPAYERS are the ones who have to pay through the nose for those public employees' salaries and benefits. They are broke. What about that do you not get?!?
OY VEY......more "sheeple" rhetoric.....try thinking for yourself instead of regurgetating the rhetoric you are "fed".........I'm afraid it's you and yours who don't get what's happening in this country! It's the old DIVIDE AND CONQUER STRATEGY.....since only 9.5% of ALL workers are unionized PLEASE show statistics on how they are "robbing" the country. It's Big Business and the rich who are bleeding our nation dry....think Wall Street....CEO's.....Big Banks......with their subsidies(corporate welfare) and lobbyists.

Case in point...The KOCH Brothers.....
On prank call, Wis. governor discusses strategy | General Headlines | Comcast.net (http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20110222/US.Wisconsin.Budget.Unions/ - broken link)
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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So once you bust the unions and defund health care I guess you guys will go after medicare and medicaid. Why should the taxpayers pay for the poor and seniors to get health care when they don't contribute anything to the corporate bottom line? I think I got your playbook down pat.
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Oh good grief. You all just don't get it, do you?

TAXPAYERS are sick and tired of footing the bill for public employees' lavish salaries plus benefits via ever-increasing sky high property tax bills.

Cut the union-issued talking points crap and don't even try to portray the public employee unions as "the working class."

That "working class" actually consists of millions of taxpayers who are robbed at gunpoint by the employee public unions and their co-conspirator elected officials to pay for their overly generous salaries and benefits via property taxes, etc., confiscated from "the working class."

Unions are making a HUGE mistake in portraying themselves as victimized workers. The TAXPAYERS are much more likely to see themselves as the victims in this dispute. TAXPAYERS are the ones who have to pay through the nose for those public employees' salaries and benefits. They are broke. What about that do you not get?!?
And the Unions have agreed to the exact demands and concessions Walker campaigned on.
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:44 PM
 
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And the Unions have agreed to the exact demands and concessions Walker campaigned on.
..and this is the part of the story that stops them cold. Logic dictates that the conclusion is that Walker's agenda was written in the Koch playbook from which he was paid to read from. OMG...the guy is on tape now admitting his ties to the Koch's and there are still people denying his intentions. Unbelievable!
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:45 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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It's "The Shock Doctrine" and you have bought into it hook, line and sinker.
Nope. All I have to do is look at my huge property tax bill increases over the years, and notice that the public employees get much much better benefits than I do even though I'm (and other taxpayers like me) the one forced to pay for them.
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