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What does that have to do with your claim that (paraphrased) teachers in Wisconsin may 'know what they're doing' based on WI students' SAT scores?
Why won't you state your conclusion? Is it because you are totally lost, and have no idea what the significance is of the different percentages of students taking the SAT in various states when attempting to compare and rank aggregate average scores?
There were two choices there, you ignored the other ( I said you were good at it , I was right ). Again, what is your experience?
The State legislature tells administrators what the minimum educational standards will be, and the administrators are suppose to ensure the teachers meet or exceed those minimum State standards.
According to those State standards, only one-third of 8th Grade students should be graduating.
Yeah, but where I taught, and from my own experience and my own experience only, kids were only trained/taught to pass the tests. Entire blocks of American and world history were left out because they weren't going to be on the test. "Teaching for the test" was/is killing us.
We could take a quick peek and see how well they were taught...
Let's look at WI's reported state test proficiency level vs. the NAEP* proficiency level (to see how honest WI is about providing an adequate education): NAEP Researchcenter - NAEP and State Equivalent Percent Table
For each grade level, the first column lists the percentage of students scoring as proficient (meets or exceeds state standards) on the state test; the second column lists the percentage of students scoring as proficient on the NAEP (National Assessment).
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Notice the percentage differential?
Wisconsin isn't the only state with this problem; it affects most states.
There were two choices there, you ignored the other ( I said you were good at it , I was right ). Again, what is your experience?
Let's think about that. I know how to interpret SAT score information, and I know the difference between how well states 'claim' they're educating their public school students, and how well they actually are by looking at NAEP results.
Let's think about that. I know how to interpret SAT score information, and I know the difference between how well states 'claim' they're educating their public school students, and how well they actually are by looking at NAEP results.
And you? Why won't you state your conclusion? You're still evading.
How well do you actually know what's happening in the schools, you know so much, but how? Have you actually taught? I've taught, for quite a while, and I always stated, time and again, that I never taught in WI. What's your experience, how do you know, or do you just google stuff? I don't have to evade, I've actually taught, and you? Be honest, what's your story, you've heard ( and ignored ) mine, your turn...
Teachers perform a uniquely important job - educating future generations of Americans. They work long hours, are under respected and under appreciated. They need summers off to unwind and prepare for the coming school year. They should not be forced to contribute to their health insurance. They have earned their pensions and should not be forced to delay retirement to age 60 or 65.
Give teachers a break!
American teachers have higher starting wages than teachers in most nations. Also the top pay grade for American teachers is higher than such poor and backwards nations like Spain, Australia, Denmark, the United Kingdom, Norway, France, Ireland, and Finland.
I have no sympathy for unionized teachers striking while they are under contract. They are purposly placing their self-interest above that of the students, parents, and taxpayers. The longer they stay on strike the more damage they do to the credibility of their entire profession.
Edited to add: NEA: It is not about the children, it is about POWER
American teachers have higher starting wages than teachers in most nations. Also the top pay grade for American teachers is higher than such poor and backwards nations like Spain, Australia, Denmark, the United Kingdom, Norway, France, Ireland, and Finland.
Yeah, they have it so bad...
Sure. Teachers have it so good. Everyone knows that if you want a fat paycheck, work in a school.
Teachers perform a uniquely important job - educating future generations of Americans. They work long hours, are under respected and under appreciated. They need summers off to unwind and prepare for the coming school year. They should not be forced to contribute to their health insurance. They have earned their pensions and should not be forced to delay retirement to age 60 or 65.
Give teachers a break!
Surely, you must be kidding. Are you a teacher?
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