Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
The right of the PEOPLE to elect their representatives, whether it be at the federal, state, city or school board level.
No Governor should have the right to usurp the voting rights of the PEOPLE.
How is it that you don't get this? You absolutely know nothing about this topic. These smaller entities are within the rights of the PEOPLE to ELECT, not the GOVERNOR to take over control of on his own personal whim.
You are totally ignorant of state and local government operations.
The people vote in the governor, just like they vote in their local school board. No one loses their right to vote.
If they didn't like how the candidate for governor intended to restructure their local government, then they should have voted in a different governor.
Fact: City Councils and School Boards got elected, too.
Fact: PRESIDENT Barack Obama didn't STRIP VOTING RIGHTS of individuals and turn over control of their cities to CORPORATIONS.
Fact: This thread isn't about PRESIDENT Obama.
LOL! When city councils fail in their fiduciary responsibility, they lose the right to govern. (this appears to an opinion as it seems there is disagreement. You appear (at least on the surface) to be supportive of city councils who destroy cities and run their finances into the groundā¦
Fact Bammer does indeed support Card Check and thus does indeed support efforts to strip voting rights from citizensā¦.
Third, this tread is about Grownups (read republicans) fixing what the children (read liberals) have doneā¦. We can therefore project and by doing so clearly see that this thread (about children) is really about Mr. Obamaā¦
You are totally ignorant of state and local government operations.
The people vote in the governor, just like they vote in their local school board. No one loses their right to vote.
You are totally ignorant of state and local government operations. The people vote in the city council and school board just like they vote in their Governor.
Financial manager bill passes Michigan Senate | detnews.com | The Detroit News (http://www.detnews.com/article/20110310/POLITICS02/103100375/1022/local/Financial-manager-bill-passes-Michigan-Senate - broken link)
"Legislation that would allow emergency financial managers to throw out union contracts and overrule elected officials in financially distressed municipalities and school districts was approved Wednesday by the state Senate. Similar legislation passed in the House in February, and the two chambers are working on a final version to send to Gov. Rick Snyder. Snyder has called for more authority for emergency financial managers and is expected to sign the legislation into law.
The legislation outlines a detailed process to help communities and school districts right their finances. But labor unions and local officials object to provisions that would allow emergency financial managers to ignore union contracts, undo local ordinances and dissolve city councils and school boards."
And it's not just Union contracts they'd be allowed to void at will, but any contract. Any. And if you like your elected city council and they're working hard for your city, too bad so sad, the governor can just decide to get rid of them and put a CORPORATION in charge of running your city. Like your elected school board? Live in a great school district? Sorry, Charlie. Your school district is being dismantled, half the schools are being closed and you're merging with ABC Corporation's neighboring school district.
Happy with your child's curriculum? Sucks to be you, because Govs Buddy Corp had decided to get rid of it. Don't like it? Take it up with Govs Buddy Corp's Board of Directors. Oh wait! They don't give a $h!t what you have to say, you didn't vote for them and can't remove them from "office". They're only answerable to their shareholders.
Are you a Republican in favor of smaller, more limited government? Don't move to MichiDowistan. The size, scope and power of state government just blew up beyond your wildest imaginations.
We are so screwed.
"We"? Do you live in Michigan, Jill?
From the linked article:
Quote:
[LEFT]The review team would be able to negotiate a consent agreement with the school district or local government that would detail steps they must take to avoid going into receivership and having a financial manager appointed.
It doesn't seem like the sky is falling as Jill would like you to believe. Also, anything that strips unions of power is absolutely a good thing. Look at the condition Michigan is in. Something has to be done...[/LEFT]
Fact: City Councils and School Boards got elected, too. and they FAILED to do their job and now the state is taking over
Fact: PRESIDENT Barack Obama didn't STRIP VOTING RIGHTS of individuals and turn over control of their cities to CORPORATIONS.uhm...he is one of the lefties pushing ot abolish the silent vote (card check)
Fact: This thread isn't about PRESIDENT Obama.
your correct this isnt about obamy..this is about PHONEY outrage from a far lefty fascist that is upset because the state is doing what the unions and local corrupt politicians couldnt do
The president is an elected official. People get to vote for the office. They also vote for city officials, not for (in this case), governor appointed czars who the governor wants to hand the power to govern (not just make suggestions and negotiate).
So you think people should sue Obama "czars" because they clearly are not elected positions..
Quote:
Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost
Why should czars, hand picked by the governor, be given power to rule the democratically elected authorities and be given protection from the citizens? More of that fascist authoritarian crap I've come to expect from a faction in America's political landscape, complete with blinded and brainwashed supporters promoting that end.
Because Czars are immune from being personally sued because they represent government...
Not all judges are elected, yet they are immune.
Trustees are not elected, they are immune
Your "Czars" that work for Obama are immune, they are not elected.
And the policy limiting lawsuits goes back even further than the EFM.. The Federal Government passed the Federal Tort Claims Act going back to 1948
You are totally ignorant of state and local government operations. The people vote in the city council and school board just like they vote in their Governor.
correct and the city council's JOB is to abide by the STATE LAWS, it FAILED the people when it couldnt....therefore in comes the state
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.