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Old 04-21-2011, 01:13 PM
 
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The kenyan birth certificate and statements from there. Do you have an FBI link to an investigation by them?
no, there has been no FBI investigation in kenya ( i believe this would be outside of their jurisdiction) .

the first kenyan birth certificate is an admitted hoax. i don't believe any more investigation is needed on that part.

the second kenyan birth certificate was produced by convicted forger, lucas smith. here is a link discussing some of the faults in it:

Orly files yet another Kenyan Birth Certificate in Barnett case (Update 4) | Obama Conspiracy Theories


to date there has been no admissible evidence put forward to contradict the hawaiian COLB and warrant an investigation.

 
Old 04-21-2011, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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the fact that this is the best the republicans have got to this point makes '12 look pretty good for the dems. debating birthers is like debating a homeless man at the bus stop. i mean, really, it is a lot like doing that.

trump is just trying to show that obama is not one of "us." whatever that means. that is the only point in supporting the birther stuff - a transparent strategy intended to show obama as some type of outsider.
 
Old 04-21-2011, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Happy wherever I am - Florida now
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Thanks for the link WreckingBall. I have bookmarked it and will read it in more depth later. I am not given to nor swayed by emotion or partisanship in such matters neither will I dismiss them on the same grounds and prefer to examine others conclusions myself, though I would prefer something more indepth from an agency with more resouces than I have access to.
 
Old 04-21-2011, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Thanks for the link WreckingBall. I have bookmarked it and will read it in more depth later. I am not given to nor swayed by emotion or partisanship in such matters neither will I dismiss them on the same grounds and prefer to examine others conclusions myself, though I would prefer something more indepth from an agency with more resouces than I have access to.
What is more indepth than a state certified birth certificate that meets all U.S State Dept requirements??
 
Old 04-21-2011, 02:03 PM
 
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I am not given to nor swayed by emotion or partisanship in such matters neither will I dismiss them on the same grounds and prefer to examine others conclusions myself,.....
i can't ask for anything more than that.
 
Old 04-21-2011, 05:29 PM
 
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Default Do birthers have any proof

Lots of ranting about Obama and his birth certificate,copies of which are all over the net, lots of accusations but wheres the proof? or is this whole birther phenomenon just a desperate last gasp from some disgruntled people who's political party lost.
 
Old 04-21-2011, 05:33 PM
 
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Lots of ranting about Obama and his birth certificate,copies of which are all over the net, lots of accusations but wheres the proof? or is this whole birther phenomenon just a desperate last gasp from some disgruntled people who's political party lost.
Short answer is NO! You can read some of their feeble attempts at this thread though...

Donald Trump - The Latest Birther.........And all other Birther Topics
 
Old 04-21-2011, 05:48 PM
 
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i think the recent resurfacing of the long debunked kenyan birth certificates was a good example of birther evidence and how it perpetually gets re-introduced as "new"..
 
Old 04-21-2011, 05:49 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Lots of ranting about Obama and his birth certificate,copies of which are all over the net, lots of accusations but wheres the proof? or is this whole birther phenomenon just a desperate last gasp from some disgruntled people who's political party lost.
No
 
Old 04-21-2011, 05:52 PM
 
Location: High Cotton
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