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Old 04-26-2011, 10:23 PM
 
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I saw her on TV. I'm not interested in a former
anything, and neither should you be.
would you be satisfied with a similar statement from the current director of the DoH?

 
Old 04-26-2011, 10:23 PM
 
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Why won't birthers answer this question, I've also asked it.
And she was a Republican appointee to boot.
 
Old 04-26-2011, 10:24 PM
 
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a person who had access, knowledge and authority...... i'm interested.

do you believe she is lying?
I can honestly say, I do not know.

Or possibly leaving out a technicality of what she
stated she saw, the wording of anything can be made into a truth. - therefore it would not be a lie
What exactly was the question asked of her,
anyways?

Politicians, State Officials, Mayors, Presidents, County Clerks, Judges, Policeman, you name
it - in the public sector - yes, they do lie.
You can't be serious to believe this does not happen
in our Public Sector Employees.

Wow - Political corruption - is that really news,
to you
 
Old 04-26-2011, 10:25 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Donna-501 View Post
Facts!!! They can't accept facts as they will be doing the birther thing until 2016.
I'm starting to think no one is really this ignorant, maybe birthers are all like trolls just trying to irritate intelligent people who put truth, and legal evidence above silly conspiracy theories that have zero evidence to back them up. If that's not the case, I guess people can believe whatever they want, but I pray they never serve on juries where one must put aside personal opinions, and make decisions based on the evidence.

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Old 04-26-2011, 10:25 PM
 
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And she was a Republican appointee to boot.
Well let me see, I guess, I'll have to weigh in on whether
I think Republican's are more or less corrupt than
Democrats are. Boy, that's going to be a hard one
 
Old 04-26-2011, 10:28 PM
 
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Well let me see, I guess, I'll have to weigh in on whether
I think Republican's are more or less corrupt than
Democrats are. Boy, that's going to be a hard one
Your Pollyness.

The point that I was trying to make is that all the Hawaiian officials involved in the birther debate were Republicans or Republican appointees, something that the birther conspiracist have yet to acknowledge or discuss.
 
Old 04-26-2011, 10:38 PM
 
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Politicians, State Officials, Mayors, Presidents, County Clerks, Judges, Policeman, you name
it - in the public sector - yes, they do lie.
You can't be serious to believe this does not happen
in our Public Sector Employees.
yes polly, i picked up on the concept that people have the potential to lie when i was about 2years old.

so let us see if there is any evidence to confirm her story:

- colb
- contemporaneous newspaper accounts
- contemporaneous birth index entry
- 1967 state department report

evidence she's lying:

?????
 
Old 04-26-2011, 10:46 PM
 
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yes polly, i picked up on the concept that people have the potential to lie when i was about 2years old.

so let us see if there is any evidence to confirm her story:

- colb
- contemporaneous newspaper accounts
- contemporaneous birth index entry
- 1967 state department report

evidence she's lying:

?????
So, if you have picked up on that concept at the age of
two, and if you've been alive since at least Nixon,
I can wager to say, it's kind of a dumb question to
ask anyone if they can positively say, any official
in government is lying or not.

So, I will simply say, I don't know.
 
Old 04-26-2011, 10:56 PM
 
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So, if you have picked up on that concept at the age of
two, and if you've been alive since at least Nixon,
I can wager to say, it's kind of a dumb question to
ask anyone if they can positively say, any official
in government is lying or not.

So, I will simply say, I don't know.
we can never say with 100% certainty that anyone is telling the truth. but our legal system is wisely based on two standards , beyond a reasonable doubt (criminal law ) and preponderance of the evidence ( civil law ). the birthers have yet to put forward a reasonable doubt to obama's birth and the preponderance of evidence is def in his favor.
 
Old 04-26-2011, 11:01 PM
 
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Why?
Why not? If there is nothing to hide, why not?
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