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Old 03-18-2011, 09:34 PM
 
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Why are the two words always used interchangeably among conservative pundits?


Socialism deals with economics.


Communism deals with a form of government.

Two different things. China is a communist country, yet it has the most capitalist system in the world, Hong Kong. Many countries that have a democratic system have a socialist economy.


The US has a socialist-capitalist economy. We do not have a pure capitalist economic system.
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:36 PM
 
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So the USSR (Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics) wasn't Communist?

Wakey, wakey!! FAIL!!
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:39 PM
 
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Conservatives, Socialism And Communism Are Not The Same Thing

I did not know that conservatives, socialists, and communists were different.

Anyhow, you are wrong. Communism and socialism are BOTH economic systems. Communism says the government has complete control of the economy, while socialism has both private and government run companies. We are slightly socialist, but we are closer to capitalism than any other country pretty much (see index of economic freedom).

Your Hong Kong analogy is not accurate. Hong Kong is NOT communist, it is run by the one country- two systems policy where Hong Kong is self run and is neither communist nor a dictatorship like the PRC.
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:40 PM
 
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So the USSR (Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics) wasn't Communist?

Wakey, wakey!! FAIL!!
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What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet...
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:40 PM
 
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So the USSR (Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics) wasn't Communist?

Wakey, wakey!! FAIL!!
North Korea's official name is Democratic People's Republic of Korea

I guess they are Democracy and ruled by Republicans.
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:42 PM
 
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Why are the two words always used interchangeably among conservative pundits?
Because they both deal with centralized control at the expense of the individual.

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Socialism deals with economics. Communism deals with a form of government.
REPEAT - They both deal with centralized control at the expense of the individual.

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China is a communist country, yet it has the most capitalist system in the world, Hong Kong.
Hong Kong is a Chinese protectorate that the Chinese government tolerates because it is a cash machine and because of western influence.

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The US does not have a pure capitalist economic system.
You are correct, but what's your point?
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:50 PM
 
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In Communism... you have Socialism as a form of commerce... the two are intertwined
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Old 03-18-2011, 10:49 PM
 
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Socialism is an economic model. Communism is a social and economic system that uses the socialist economic model.

For the record, according to the one country, two system policy, Hong Kong is allowed to be a capitalist enclave while China retails socialism. They do not adhere to the same economic system.
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Old 03-18-2011, 10:53 PM
 
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Socialism is an economic model. Communism is a social and economic system that uses the socialist economic model.

For the record, according to the one country, two system policy, Hong Kong is allowed to be a capitalist enclave while China retails socialism. They do not adhere to the same economic system.
So all those American companies that moved to China are based in Hong Kong?
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Old 03-18-2011, 10:55 PM
 
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So all those American companies that moved to China are based in Hong Kong?
Hong Kong starts companies, PRC normally just uses their cheap labor. China is not very communist, really, it is more of a socialist dictatorship.
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